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Marriage is a private matter : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 14/7/2014

Those who oppose same-sex marriage often attempt to fix in law a particular definition of marriage, like trapping an insect in amber.

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For people who think that our side are being silly consider this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html
The Gay agenda relies on the use of force and punitive powers available to the state, like all "Progressive" movements it cannot exist otherwise.
The goal of the Gay marriage movement is to raise children to be homosexuals, to teach homosexuality in schools and to lower or abolish the age of consent.
The Newton/Truong case showed exactly what this process looks like, it's wrong to describe them as "Pedophiles" when they were actually "Gay Parenting", raising a son to be homosexual and introducing him to homosexual practices in the traditional manner:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/cairns-couple-victimised-other-boys-according-to-authorities-20130703-2parh.html
Yet despite the candid way in which Peter Truong spoke to Four Corners about his sexuality and the process by which he himself became a homosexualised child the ABC are still apologising for them, still calling them "pedophiles" and slandering people who are not shocked by this case and who point out the obvious facts of the matter as "homophobes":
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-10/gorman-second-thoughts/4809582
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 14 July 2014 11:55:30 AM
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This is fun watching all the pretend liberations duck a waive.

Jay pedo's come in all flavours but by far the majority are men raping young women so I wonder what your point is?

It could just be a sad pathetic dog whistle because you have no real argument, but maybe your shouting loudly in the hope of repressing some deep emotions of your own.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Monday, 14 July 2014 1:45:10 PM
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Bernie
two good friends of mine have just decided to get married. She is in her late 50s, he in his early 60s, way too old for kids. Are you saying their marriage will no be legitimate?
Posted by Rhian, Monday, 14 July 2014 2:09:40 PM
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Rhian, sorry but I don't understand what marriage legitimacy has got to do with these friends of yours? If they wish to commit themselves to each other, that's wonderful, but I don't see what a piece of paper from the government has to do with their relationship. If they are looking at some formal and public way of showcasing their commitment to each other, then they can get married, regardless of the near impossibility of children, even though, in my view, the marriage they will be undertaking will have little relevance to them legally but obviously a lot of relevance emotionally. I assume the same emotional value would apply to same sex marriage, except that there is no legal opportunity for such marriages under federal law and I don't support changes to the law to allow such marriage. Your friends are using the law in a way that it was unlikely to have been intended when the first government somewhere in the world brought in marriage laws some 100s or 1000s of years ago.
Posted by Bernie Masters, Monday, 14 July 2014 2:23:58 PM
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If one is going for broadening the scope marriage, What about considering fixed term marriages such as 2 years 5 yrs 10 years etc. An alternative is a simple opt out clause.

There is no reason why if the definition of marriage is changing, why it cannot expand further.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 14 July 2014 2:30:59 PM
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Cobber,
I'm not projecting anything, just passing on links, people can watch the Truong and Newton documentary and make up their own minds, although he's pleaded guilty Truong denies that he's a pedophile and I find that reasonable and credible. Both men were primarily attracted to adults and still describe themselves as Gay parents, they were bringing up their son to be Gay as best they knew how.
Is it so hard to believe that Gay parents would want their son to grow up to be just like them, that rather than wait until he was in his early teens before letting other men have access to him they would start from a much younger age so that he wouldn't be traumatised or shocked by the behaviour?
Lowering or eliminating the age of consent is a key point of the LGBTI platform, according to the likes of Peter Tatchell or Tom O'Carroll the best way to eliminate child abuse is to give full sexual autonomy to children...which would be convenient for people who want to raise homosexuals from birth.
Cobber I'm not Anti Gay and I couldn't care less if Gays want to get married, what I'm against the LGBTI lobby having any sort of political power and based on my real world observations of Gays I don't think it's a good idea to let homosexuals adopt or raise children, in that I'm not alone:
http://englishmanif.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/la-joie-de-vivre-41-july-13-2014.html#more
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 14 July 2014 2:38:07 PM
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