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Far right snuggles up to depopulationists : Comments

By Malcolm King, published 11/7/2014

The SPP blames the Chinese for causing the housing bubble, the Lebanese for high crime rates in Sydney, Muslims for terrorism and the Vietnamese for drug importation.

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With the John Tanton Network in the background behind a variety of front organisations and alliances, including SPA etc., and CIS, FAIR etc. in the US The Daily Kos describes the 'bi-partisan' bigotry that is encouraged:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/04/1106275/-ALEC-SLLI-Bipartisan-Bigotry

Surprise surprise evidence of bipartisanship, Australia's own Cory Bernardi is involved with Tanton's ALEC, does Bernardi go to SPA meetings? That would really attract the young crowd? :)
Posted by Andras Smith, Friday, 18 July 2014 6:40:26 PM
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King "Can you explain why SPA membership monies, which is tax deductible, is being used in political campaigns?"

noun: ignoramus; plural noun: ignoramuses
an ignorant or stupid person.

*Anyone* can disseminate electoral materials.

The Boy Scouts can.
Greenpeace can.
The Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras can.
The Chinatown Business Chamber can.

Even, Mrs Reddon, retired school principal can.

As long as they register the material with the electoral office.
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 18 July 2014 7:07:08 PM
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Regards employment, it seems that employment in the future is going to be very different to the past, and industry will need less workers, and not more.

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21594264-previous-technological-innovation-has-always-delivered-more-long-run-employment-not-less

Even if we turn towards manufacturing, countries such as the UK show that a modern manufacturing industry can significantly increase productivity and output, but actually reduce the number of people employed.

Recent experiences in the EU show that high levels of unemployment and poverty creates instability and tensions, leading to people turning away from the usual political parties.

The gap between the haves and have nots is now very wide, and every time this has occurred in history, it has created war.

Our current government can't even get its first budget passed, and will be totally useless in managing the country in future years with overpopulation.

I sense civil war will occur in Australia in the next decade or so.
Posted by Incomuicardo, Friday, 18 July 2014 8:46:29 PM
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Wow, summary execution of the ‘Lump of Labour Fallacy’ by Divergence. The dismissal took the form of ‘yes but…’ There goes 100 years of economic theory. There are no ‘yes buts’ – unless you think the economy is a bucket in which people fall in to.

Last year the right wing of the Republican Party slammed NumbersUSA for using racist dog whistles, which cost them the Chicano vote at the last election. That's why I call the SPA/SPP (same thing) 'Pauline Hanson in a koala suit'. They talk green but underneath, it's Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' all the way down.

At the last Federal election in Australia, the SPP preferenced One Nation, the Australian Motoring Party, the Shooters and Fishers Party, Palmer's United Party, Family First and Katter's Australian Party AHEAD of the Greens. An environmental party my bum.

If one voted on SPP preference guidelines, you’d support kicking out the Asians, raising tariffs, shooting wildlife in national parks, eschewing contraception, building more mines and raising jingoism to a fine art.

What is more troubling is William Bourke's comment on The Conversation on 29 May 2013, that he had never heard of the Social Contract Press, of John Tanton (a former employer of Becks) or any foreign anti-population/anti-immigration group.

"I have never heard of the USA groups/people you mention, let alone have "links" with them. In fact the ASPP has no links to ANY group anywhere, including in Australia - we are completely independent, at my insistence, from day one," said Bourke.

But he'd only met Beck a few months prior. Why did he deny it? Exactly what is the relationship of the SPP with the anti-immigration movement in America?

In 2011, The New York Times profiled Tanton. He wrote to a large donor and was quoted in the NYT: "One of my prime concerns is about the decline of folks who look like you and me." Tanton warned a friend that, "for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that."

Enter the SPA/SPP.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Friday, 18 July 2014 9:02:18 PM
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Yes, quite right Shocka, the SPA is the political mothership of the SPP.

The SPA sometimes say, to conform to tax legislation, that it's just a harmless little ol' charity, dedicated to environmentalism. In fact, not only does it politically support the SPP, it letterboxs the SPP campaign leaflets, meets regularly with its leadership group (same membership), and exists solely to win political support for the SPP.

The SPA's Facebook website is a defacto political website of the SPP. I know it. You know it and Minister Hunt knows it too.

Ignoramus (def): person who thinks he can get away with it.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Saturday, 19 July 2014 8:26:56 AM
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Isn't it wonderful that we have this brilliant PR man, Malcolm King, who understands more about "lump of labour" than professors of economics at Harvard and Cambridge, let alone our own Productivity Commission? I only quoted from the consensus views in the House of Lords report. Some of the economists who contributed to it were a lot stronger on wage depression, denial of training opportunities, labour exploitation, and unemployment as a result of mass migration. Bob Birrell gives the facts and figures for Australia. Unlike King's effusions, his papers have to pass peer review.

http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/cpur/files/2013/02/Immigration_review__Feb-2013.pdf

Why doesn't King tell us where the major parties put SPP on their how-to-vote cards? These are the very parties responsible for the situation that SPP was formed to fight. They thus deserve to go last on the ballot paper. The Greens are hopeless on population despite a fine sounding policy, apart from the South Australian Branch, which adopted a policy similar to SPP's at the last state election. The Greens had the balance of power in the Federal Parliament, but had no objection when Kevin Rudd concealed his intention to massively increase immigration until after the election. Before the next election, Julia Gillard said that she "didn't believe in hurtling down the track to a Big Australia" and then did the exact opposite after the election. Not a peep from the Greens. Why should SPP encourage them? It should be pointed out that SPA existed long before SPP was even thought of. An individual who is a member of both organisations has every right to hand out how-to-vote cards, etc.
Posted by Divergence, Saturday, 19 July 2014 5:32:41 PM
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