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PLO and Hamas threaten split over Islamic state : Comments
By David Singer, published 9/7/2014Over the last two years Isis has established a strong presence in parts of Syria, controlling key oil fields in eastern Syria in the area bordering Iraq, levying taxes and other penalties and implementing strict Sharia law on besieged communities.
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Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 10 July 2014 12:57:00 PM
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Not yet. Although the members of the NSW Police Force refer to the area between Bankstown and Auburn as "the Gaza Strip."
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 11 July 2014 4:08:57 AM
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Hi David S
Looking forward to your next article concerning Israel's fire war on Gaza. See http://www.smh.com.au/world/palestinian-death-toll-on-rise-as-israel-pounds-gaza-for-third-day-20140711-zt3lm.html . Yes 3 Israeli's were murdered more than a week ago and Israel has killed more than 88 people of Gaza over the last few days for no Israeli killed. I understand Israel operates on a ratio (some would say Butcher's bill) of killing 50 Arabs for each Israeli death. So do you reckon Israel will stop at 150 dead in Gaza? Is an Israeli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava_tank invasion of Gaza a goer? Regards Pete Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 11 July 2014 2:20:53 PM
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ol let go
note the demeaning QUOTE..<<..Not yet. <<..Although the members of the NSW Police Force refer to the area between Bankstown and Auburn as "the Gaza Strip.">> ie like a cemetry or a sewer works thats where the scum goes/trouble being how you know yet another undercover nark exposed. but your destracting nark from the hoRRID TRUTH-you scum have sought these 3 dead israelie kids died in a road accident/wre put on i=ce taken within the israeL CHECK POINTS AREA AND THE CRIME SCENE SET UP BUT YOUR BIG MISTAKE WAS NOT BURNing the proof them kids bodies.killed by vehicluar accidnt against you and ta mates as for minimization/of murder~by the state;on captice populations/no les//its you your the joke .damm post,limitation have prevented my venting the spllen fuklly at this act most obscene here we have secular scum/bombing the life dorece from 111 aults[WOUNDING 888\..MOST OF THEM KIDDIES MATE[KIDDIES IS THE HIGGEST KILL RATE[44 DEAD LAST I HEARD MATE the bmbing of gulages/is a depth that/ the naTZIES [YOU ZIONISTS TRAINED\ JUST TO FILL UP YOUR SECULAR/CLAIMED-HOMELAND its ime we inverted the kill ratio of one jew=50 palistein kids kids is big in israel-porn\in the deserts Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 July 2014 9:58:18 AM
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Hi David S
Here's a couple of references to assist with your future article: Israel's Iron Dome 'Doesn't Guarantee Safety' - Israeli officials say an attack on a petrol station sent cars flying but most rockets are intercepted by a hi-tech missile shield. http://news.sky.com/story/1299440/israels-iron-dome-doesnt-guarantee-safety Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu says airstrikes in Gaza to continue as UN questions campaign's legality - Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the Jewish state has hit more than 1,000 targets during its four-day-old offensive against Gaza militants, and that "there are still more to go". http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-12/israel-vows-to-continue-airstrikes-as-un-questions-legality/5591828 Pete Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 12 July 2014 11:22:43 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdKPJZKXtWQ ABC Manipulates Truth to Fit Pro-Israel Bias Abby Martin calls out the media framing of the current violence in Gaza and Israel, highlighting how ABC's Diane Sawyer misdirected viewers when reporting on the violence in Israel while showing pictures of destruction in Gaza. LIKE Breaking the Set @ http://fb.me/JournalistAbbyMartin FOLLOW Abby Martin @ http://twitter.com/AbbyMartin Blackwater awarded over $1bn from State Dept. since threat on investigator's life T http://whatreallyhappened.com/podcasts/hourtitle2.m3u Argentineans hold protest at Israel embassy in Buenos Aires http://rt.com/usa/172156-blackwater-contracts-threat-investigator/ Muslim and Arab organizations have gathered outside the Israeli embassy in the Argentine capital Buenos Aires to express outrage at Tel Aviv’s ongoing atrocities against the Palestinians, Press TV reports. http://presstv.com/detail/2014/07/08/370432/argentine-protesters-slam-israel-cruelty/ visit ya sister/then ya dead/we will know them by their deeds http://rt.com/news/172052-gaza-israel-fighting-victims/ Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 July 2014 5:22:56 PM
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Once again no one has chosen to discuss the subject matter of my article.
However it is nice to see that Pete has commented: "Let it not be said that this fine article go uncommented upon." Well it has Pete. Maybe everyone agrees on the content and the conclusions. Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 8:48:14 AM
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David it was a good article but the most significant event involving Israel in years occurred and its still happening. Why are you silent about it?
See Neve Gordon's timely On Line Opinion article today http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16500&page=0 "Moreover, the editor-in-chief of the most widely circulated daily newspaper Israel Hayom, published an opinion article entitled "Bring the Gaza Strip back to the Stone Age."" Pete Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 10:46:11 AM
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#Plantaganet
You have blotted your record by again failing to adopt your own suggestion to discuss the content of this article by again trying to divert attention elsewhere with your comment: "David it was a good article but the most significant event involving Israel in years occurred and its still happening. Why are you silent about it?" Actually I am not silent about that "most significant event" and sent an article on it to OLO three days ago. Whether OLO prints it is outside my control. It is always dangerous to make accusations which end up with you having egg all over your face. I can assure you the creation of the caliphate in the newly declared Islamic State has far greater consequences for both Jews and Arabs than "the most significant event" that you refer to. The slaughter and mayhem already wreaked in Syria and Iraq by the ISIS proponents of this new State make the last ten days events in Gaza and Israel pale into insignificance. 170000 dead in Syria so far. 10.9 million Syrians — nearly half of the population of 22 million — are in desperate need of humanitarian aid inside the country, according to UN figures. A full 5.1 million of them are children. Another 2.9 million Syrian refugees, half of them children, also rely on emergency assistance in neighbouring countries to survive, with statistics showing 100,000 people fleeing the violence to join their ranks each month. Blood-soaked bodies and blazing vehicles were left in the wake of the ISIS fanatics as they pushed the frontline towards Baghdad posting a propaganda video depicting appalling scenes. ISIS leaders threatening the battle would rage in Baghdad and in the holy city of Karbala; Aid groups warning of a new refugee crisis after half a million terrified Iraqis left their homes to escape the jihadists. But Plantaganet and everyone else wants to avoid any discussion of the significance of these events on Hamas and the PLO and rather focus on Gaza and Israel - which is not the subject of this article. Shame on you all. Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 1:26:49 PM
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david/im wastING A PRECIOUS POST ON REPYING YOUR BULLSHHHH IT
mate isis hence THIS CALIFATE RUBBISH IS MADE UP BY MOSSAD and cia its rubbish[we all know it] yankies trained isis.ISRAEL YUPPLIED ISIS IF THIS BOWS UP SO WHAT?[IT WAS DECIDED WHEN RUSSIA WENT TO HELP GEARGE BUSHES USEFULL IDIOT..SEALED, JUST THE PERFECT RED HERRINGC WHILE YOU BOMB your cousens into the dirt [MATE THIS IS RELIGION AGAINST SECULAR[GODLESS HEathens] they divided gods unitec house for far TOO LONG ALL SECULAR MATERIALISTS AND SATANists MUST LEAVE THE HOLY LANDS..its shortly to accend into a puff of smoke its a miracle god/took them all\into HEAVEN[HELL] SO WE\ALL/CAN NOW MAKE PEACE The image http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/07/14/world/middleeast/14open_sderot1/14open_sderot1-master1050.jpg their/amusement..killed at least eight of their Palestinian neighbors, http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/world/middleeast/missile-at-beachside-gaza-cafe-finds-patrons-poised-for-world-cup.html seated in similar plastic chairs at a beachside cafe in Gaza, waiting to watch the World Cup semifinal between Argentina and the Netherlands. http://twitter.com/yousefmunayyer/status/487344316793507840 he said in a telephone interview from Israel, “nothing new.” Similar scenes, of Israeli spectators gathered on the high ground above Gaza to view the destruction below, were documented in a Times of London article http://www.miftah.org/display.cfm?DocId=18589&CategoryId=5 and a video report from Denmark’s TV2 during Operation Cast Lead in 2009. http://youtu.be/Tjw8U0AcH4Q This is what a palistein rocket does http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0AEWa-hDXdY-hSxMZlbeavuXVN0UvFdxkq0Ow9wTECHL-84px7VjQfQ AT BEST A HOLE[arround TWO FOOT ROUND/INTO the ground A FOOT DEEP here is what ARROND A HUNDRED OF THEM LOOK LIKE..[USED] http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgM7uw6bL0AIaFnxmFtBl5L_dhu_tu7olXAzjohnne6jNWG_CA7XBApGI as you can see they are mostly intact/plus some intresting POINTS TO NOTE/BUT FIRST NOTE THIs..these are the leFT OVERS OF 'REAL ROCKETS http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzY8ff7Ry_9eiq6-oaK8Hy9Uf6Y0nDRRkyUwlHzmWtAr2tpttsNxmm9FnO petty fragmENTS/THAT SPRAY DEATH ALL ROUND SO LETS NOTE the 'rockets' http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNljX7hzBtCZA0S7u_Ve6RikqdjW23wHls7kkSWZB06HmZDaEe1s47Aco see how the metal//rIPS BUT NOT SEPPERATES[IT DOSNT Shater like the real bombs israel explodes into heaveY MUTAGENE PARTICULATE LOOK AGAIN at the pictures http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpcVM49Fw3oA0Vbpdk3KRxpq0E1dobeNaEe5fgSW0P53qT0bzIY0F39RM ONE LUMP OR HUNDREDS OF SHARDS ITS not the same thing punish the guilty iM TELLING YOU THIS IS A WAR BETWEEn satanic aNTI GOD FORCES AGAINST THE UNITY OF THE nations of god THIS http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjde1yv1FhmGFDowi4zHXSDskYQYbOPpqJePCKYhfoTRUF7zP9EZFT_SU CANNOT COME by these http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQqTD87k-G_Yv-cwFHT2zusH5pD886P2XDowN30XOt8fdN1bsnx9zwnCwY STOP LYiNG..please one OF THESE http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRf4W618jUo6NYQryomTjd1N86ItBGMP9M7xDSzUNzZUHQTZ8zH3s9I0LKa destroyes more THAN ALL OF THESE http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyvxejVGxtB79qII486h9Efnba8U8DnIA6ayJLig1_pV_IUSR_W6nfpjiv Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 2:54:33 PM
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You've said "Shame on you all." David.
Aside from alienating your readership you are not a judge but perhaps a spokesman for Israel's foreign and defence policies. Your argument (Israel's conduct is OK because Syria is worse) is old (having been covered in your past articles) and is particularly unconvincing this week. The political support of Israel from countries like Australia demands a higher standard than Israel killing around 200 people of Gaza in the past week. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-15/israel-resumes-air-strikes-on-gaza/5599714 . Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 3:21:16 PM
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The..Holy-Spirit,..like the
ego,/is..the front/of-mind]..decision. Together..they constitute..*all the alternatives..which your mind..*CAN accept..and obey...The ego..and..the Holy/Spirit..are the ONLY choices..which are/open.to you. God*created one, and..so..*you cannot..eradicate it. *YOU..*made/the other,..so you CAN yet/Only..what God..creates..is irreversible..and unchangeable. What YOU have made..can always be*changed,..because when you..do/not..think LIKE God.. you have..not really..any..true-thought at all. Delusional ideas..are NOT thought..but you CAN think..that you believe..in them...But you are wrong. The function of thought..comes FROM God.*and is IN God. As/part of HIS thought, you cannot think..APART from Him. Irrational thought is..a thought/DISORDER. God Himself orders your thought, because your thought..was created BY*..Him. Guilt feelings are always a sign..that you do not know this. They also show that you..believe..you CAN think..apart from God,.[and WANT to.] Every thought disorder..is attended by guilt.at its inception, and MAINTAINED..by/guilt in its continuance...Guilt is inescapable for those..who believe that they order..their*...OWN thought,..and must therefore obey its..ego/[herd-mind]..orders. This makes..them feel RESPONSIBLE/for..their mind ERRORS, without recognizing..that by ACCEPTING..this responsibility..they/are already..really reacting..Irresponsibly. If the sole responsibility..of the miracle-worker is to accept the ATONEMENT,..and I assure you that it is,/then the responsibility for what is..atoned FOR CANNOT..be yours. This contradiction..cannot BE resolved except by accepting..the solution of undoing. You WOULD be..responsible for the effects of all your wrong thinking..IF IT COULD NOT..BE UNDONE. The purpose of the Atonement is to save the past..in PURIFIED form only. If you accept the remedy..FOR a thought-disorder, and a remedy/./whose efficacy is beyond/doubt, how can its symptoms remain? You have reason to question.. the validity of symptom/cure. *But NO ONE believes..that the symptoms..can remain if..the underlying CAUSE is..*removed. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176496 SECULAR..SERVES;NOT CENSURES THE GODLESS/SECULAR..cant win. its a front of mind delusion..in nthe end. Posted by one under god, Thursday, 17 July 2014 9:26:07 AM
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#plantaganet
Might I remind you that it was you who sought to avoid any discussion of the subject matter of my present article with your " off topic but topical" comment. I have made it clear that I do not intend to be sidetracked by people like you who seek to change the goal posts and go off on their merry way raising issues which have nothing to do with my article. You and OUG are a perfect pigeon pair in adopting the identical tactic. Are you perhaps one and the same person using two nom de plumes? Posted by david singer, Thursday, 17 July 2014 4:08:38 PM
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David Singer uttered:
"I have made it clear that I do not intend to be sidetracked by people like you" Then don't be sidetracked David. Don't comment on my comments. Cheers Pete Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 17 July 2014 4:27:01 PM
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PLAN..isnt as upset a i thought he would be
he comes accross way more literate than i but plan..the plan is we each got 10 poots [AND ID DAVID WAS RIGHT/THEN INSANELY WE WOULD Have 20] but dear david i post to the max/and planet has plenty spare[i wish i could use his spare posts instead im here wasting a post/to rehute insanities spouting accross the dead zone between us/like the rattle from a machine gun/to waste a few posted pot shots back/but yes mate your right/the red herring stank all eyes are on the prize/secular lies or by gods right.;[not might] The City of David is a Jewish settlement near the Dung Gate of the Old City. On occupied land, and resisted by the Palestinian neighborhood of Silwan, whose land it is taking. YOU..who....have adopted..as..a state-symbol the menorah..(candlebrum). <<..which is explained..in the Tenach.. (on..the occasion of..a previous return..to the Holy Land). as,WRITTEN *"not..with..*armed force*..and..not with power,*....*KEY* but..*in My spirit..says..the..Lord of Hosts.">> http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176496 “As ye sow,..so shall..ye reap” merely means..that what..you believe..to be worth cultivating..in ..other.you will..seek..to..cultivate in yourself. Your*..own.judgment..of what..is worthy DOES..make it/worthy..for you. “Vengeance..is mine..sayeth..the Lord” is easily explained..if you/remember.. that ideas increase*..*only..*by being shared.*.... This quotation..therefore..emphasizes..the fact/that vengeance*..CAN -NOT..be shared. thus vengence..dont belong to men cheers how about the zionist/atheist-jew thing secular state..for gods lands...[thats insane] noty gods laws..secular[zionist/atheist..state law gods lands run..by atheist..jews if only..they followed..the calling..to shalom ..to all..those who engage..in..the study of..the Torah..and not of..the laws of war*..are you..of the lampstand..or star-wars? GOOD-NIGHT Posted by one under god, Thursday, 17 July 2014 5:09:36 PM
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http://stopwar.org.uk/news/israel-is-now-the-psychopathic-jimmy-savile-of-nation-states-says-alexei-sayle
http://stopwar.org.uk/news/bonfire-of-dolls-lit-by-jews-in-israel-to-protest-against-slaughter-of-children-in-gaza http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=650 http://www.un.org/en/preventgenocide/adviser/genocide_prevention.shtml http://stopwar.org.uk/events/national-gaza-demonstration-saturday-19-july-stop-the-killing-stop-the-bombing#.U8MgErH2LfO http://stopwar.org.uk/news/israel-is-waging-war-on-gaza-with-only-one-goal-kill-arabs Posted by one under god, Thursday, 17 July 2014 6:54:52 PM
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TEN QUESTIONS FOR THE UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES
http://rt.com/news/173976-mh17-crash-questions-ukraine/ 1. Immediately after the tragedy, the Ukrainian authorities, naturally, blamed it on the self-defense forces. What are these accusations based on? 2. Can Kiev explain in detail how it uses Buk missile launchers in the conflict zone? And why were these systems deployed there in the first place, seeing as the self-defense forces don’t have any planes? 3. Why are the Ukrainian authorities not doing anything to set up an international commission? When will such a commission begin its work? 4. Would the Ukrainian Armed Forces be willing to let international investigators see the inventory of their air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles, including those used in SAM launchers? 5. Will the international commission have access to tracking data from reliable sources regarding the movements of Ukrainian warplanes on the day of the tragedy? 6. Why did Ukrainian air traffic controllers allow the plane to deviate from the regular route to the north, towards “the anti-terrorist operation zone”? 7. Why was airspace over the warzone not closed for civilian flights, especially since the area was not entirely covered by radar navigation systems? 8. How can official Kiev comment on reports in the social media, allegedly by a Spanish air traffic controller who works in Ukraine, that there were two Ukrainian military planes flying alongside the Boeing 777 over Ukrainian territory? 9. Why did Ukraine’s Security Service start working with the recordings of communications between Ukrainian air traffic controllers and the Boeing crew and with the data storage systems from Ukrainian radars without waiting for international investigators? 10. What lessons has Ukraine learned from a similar incident in 2001, when a Russian Tu-154 crashed into the Black Sea? Back then, the Ukrainian authorities denied any involvement on the part of Ukraine’s Armed Forces until irrefutable evidence proved official Kiev to be guilty Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 July 2014 9:17:59 PM
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Tens of thousands march through London: The BBC is silent…
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2014/07/tens-thousands-march-london-bbc-silent/ Crowds of tens of thousands gathered in Central London today to protest at the on-going military actions of Israel in the Gaza Strip. Estimates range from 50,000 to 100,000, making this one of the largest demonstrations in recent years in Britain. Norwegian surgeon in Gaza hospital: "This is outrageous, horrific and unbelievable ... what's happening is no less than premeditated killing and genocide." http://nwo-patriot-link-news.blogspot.com/2014/07/norwegian-surgeon-in-gaza-hospital-this.html carloads with maimed, torn apart, bleeding, shivering, dying - all sorts of injured Palestinians, all ages, all civilians, all innocent. Reuters: Clashes Erupt in Paris as Thousands Rally To Denounce Israel Attack on Gaza http://forward.com/articles/202411/clashes-erupt-in-paris-as-thousands-rally-to-denou/#ixzz37wdHlwDQ Angry Crowds Defy Ban on Pro-Palestinian Protests http://nwo-patriot-link-news.blogspot.com/2014/07/pro-palestine-protests-marches-are-now.html Paris — Pro-Palestinian protesters clashed with police in Paris on Saturday as they defied a ban on a planned rally against violence in the Gaza strip. Expel Palestinians, populate Gaza with Jews, says Knesset deputy speaker B http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/expel-palestinians-populate-gaza-jews-says-knesset-deputy-speaker Israel must attack Gaza even more mercilessly, expel the population and resettle the territory with Jews, the deputy speaker of Israel’s parliament, the Knesset, has said. Moshe Feiglin, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, makes the call in an article for the Israeli news website Arutz Sheva. http://uacrisis.org/u-s-grants-ukraine-non-nato-ally-status/ The United States Congress passed a Russian Aggression Prevention Act (RAPA) of 2014, which granted Ukraine together with Moldova, and Georgia major non-NATO ally status. The legislation authorizes the transfer of military assistance to Ukraine, including the anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons TROUBLE BEING THE RUSSIAN SYMPATHISERS HAVNT GOT ANY PLANES..wink?WINK* http://rss.infowars.com/20140718_Fri_Alex.mp3 Posted by one under god, Sunday, 20 July 2014 7:37:34 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/israel-pounds-gaza-as-hamas-fires-rockets-20140710-zt20w.html : "Gaza City - Israeli warplanes have pounded Gaza, killing at least 30 people in a major new confrontation with Palestinian militants, as Hamas flexed its firepower and sent thousands running for shelters across the country."
Fortunately Australia does not suffer such excitement.