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There are no 'gay' people, just people : Comments

By Bernard Toutounji, published 27/6/2014

Who we are as people is defined by things much deeper than how we define our sexuality.

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"Gay" was Victorian era street slang which applied to an outsider or sexual transgressor like the prostitute,the hustler or the mountebank, that's where the modern usage comes from.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 27 June 2014 9:20:44 PM
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Bernie, I am a liberal in regards to homosexuality. I don't think that homosexuality should be a criminal offence, and I don't think that homosexuals should be jailed anymore. What you do in your bedrooms is your business. But don't come crying to me for social equality.

My attitude to homosexuality is the same for consenting incest. If brothers and sisters, or a pair cousins, fathers and daughters, or sons and mothers, want to have consensual sex, go for it. What you do in your own bedroom is your business, provided that you don't have any babies. But I don't want to hear about it because I don't approve of it. And don't try to tell me it is "marriage."

Homosexual people have perverted to word "gay" to mean something it is not. They are not going to do the same thing to "marriage."

You can call a "fish" a "bird" if you want to. But it still won't fly.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 28 June 2014 3:33:08 AM
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So the Vatican has decided to cease labelling people on the basis of factors beyond their control and irrelevant to their ability to function as human beings? That's wonderful news! When will the first female priests be ordained?
Posted by Jon J, Saturday, 28 June 2014 8:22:07 AM
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to promote an unnatural lifestyle and call it 'gay 'is just a deceitful way try and gain wide approval.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 28 June 2014 11:13:04 AM
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Dear LEGO,

You may want to Google "flying fish."
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 28 June 2014 11:14:08 AM
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Not included in my previous post but probably the most important issue here:
Neglected is the identity forged by persecution, exclusion, discrimination, and stigma.

Clearly the author and some commentators at not ready to allow LGBTI to be included beside them but are insistent the we are both identified as different and relegated invisible by denial of our frequency in the population. Ironically, we are not allowed our true biological differences but silly irrational ideas of wilful choice of behaviour and of lifestyle are used to both separate us and condemn us. We have the diversity of the straight community plus what they reject so claims of 'a lifestyle' required suspension of rational thought whilst bizarrely suggesting that anyone straight could suddenly become homoerotically attracted.

All this finger pointing at false targets whilst serving to minimise us, props up the fragile straight ego on sex, gender and sexuality that is the consequences of being caged by contrived ill-fitting religious and moral rules. It also serves to prop up the closet door for many straights who are no so heterosexual - why else would people bother to write about us when their own lifestyle choices are so much more important and respectful than ours?
Posted by Eric G, Saturday, 28 June 2014 1:01:44 PM
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