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Anti-social media : Comments

By Graham Young, published 20/6/2014

If you want to know how the left in Australia thinks, then check out Twitter. It will also explain the slow degradation of Australian political reporting into gotcha exposes and personal slurs.

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SPQR,

I read heaps of leftie tweeters criticising Palmer's comments re Credlin. There were plenty on my twitter timeline condemning his remarks...but somehow the righties decided it was a good angle to accuse them of silence.

Personally, I regarded it as a dumb ill-thought comment from Palmer, who often shoots off at the mouth in that manner. The laugh is that he's an ex-Liberal, although no-one seems to bother with that angle.

What are your thoughts on Ms Credlin using her private fertility challenges to promote her boss for election?

Such as here:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/with-tony-on-my-side/story-e6frf7jo-1226548140341

""I think it is important that people, especially women, hear the truth about Tony Abbott, and not just the myths," she says.

As the next federal election looms, Team Abbott has wheeled out a succession of women to endorse his female-friendly credentials to assure the voting public he's not the anti-woman ogre they were led to believe."
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 22 June 2014 8:51:38 AM
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SPQR, in March there were 120,000 people who demonstrated around Australia, there have been a number of demonstrations since. There were never as many people demonstrating in the last 20 years ( in a ten month period) as has happened since LNP was elected 10 months ago.

Leo, says: "...The quaint reply by ant is another evasion by ant of the fact that thare is no science...."
Scientists look for empirical evidence Leo, thermokarst lakes and thermokarst failure provides objective data. You might be interested also in seeing what's happening with the Andean glaciers, particularly the ones in tropical areas.

The decline of glaciers being further empirical evidence to show climate change is happening.

http://www.the-cryosphere.net/7/81/2013/tc-7-81-2013.pdf

Monty Python shows a skit which can be taken as a metaphor for how despite not having much data climate change deniers argue against what is actually happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw&feature=kp

http://www.fess-global.org/publications/issuebriefs/the_coming_crisis_water_insecurity_in_peru.pdf
Posted by ant, Sunday, 22 June 2014 8:57:41 AM
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Prime Minister Tony Abbott is ''a sexist'' and the Coalition has been ''dog whistling'' with its asylum seeker policies, says retiring Liberal senator Sue Boyce in an extraordinary exit interview.

Reflecting on her career in Parliament - she retires at the end of June - Senator Boyce said she thought Julia Gillard's famous misogyny speech was ''powerful'' and, for Ms Gillard's purposes, ''a brilliant speech''. But she thought the former prime minister had used the wrong word to describe Mr Abbott.

''I think it would have been more accurate if she had called him a sexist,'' she said.
Illustration: Matt Golding.

Illustration: Matt Golding.

''But singling [Mr Abbott] out as a sexist was not reasonable either,'' she added, saying the Prime Minister was one of many ''subtle'' sexists in federal Parliament.
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Senator Boyce did not offer examples for Mr Abbott's alleged sexism and conceded she had found the Prime Minister more willing to listen to the views of women than many of her other male colleagues.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 22 June 2014 9:11:35 AM
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ant,

"SPQR, in March there were 120,000 people who demonstrated around Australia, there have been a number of demonstrations since. There were never as many people demonstrating in the last 20 years ( in a ten month period) as has happened since LNP was elected 10 months ago."

Good point.....in the first round of March in March protests there was a similar number - a number which was all but ignored by MSM, but was widely seen on twitter. The last round of protests garnered more coverage by far on MSM.

Graham says in the article:

"The best advice to Australian politicians and journalists could be to spend less time behind the computer and more time out in the yard – that's where reality happens"

Which may be all well and good if MSM decides to collectively cover it - but what if they don't?

Hours ago there was a huge austerity protest taking place in London - 50,000 strong. UK tweeters were reporting that the BBC coverage of it was nowhere to be seen...but it was on every foreign channel.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 22 June 2014 9:15:31 AM
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Ant,

You say : “ in March there were 120,000 people who demonstrated around Australia, there have been a number of demonstrations since. There were never as many people demonstrating in the last *20 YEARS* (in a ten month period) ”

Yet the GreenLeft (one of Poirot’s and Foxy’s main references…so it must be halah!) says: “A million people marched around Australia [in Feb 2003] — 500,000 of them in a huge protest in Sydney”
https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/53277

And even your figure of 120,000 is questionable since your fellow AGW brethren here: http://precariousclimate.com/2014/03/25/march-in-march-100000-protest-few-report-it/
Give the number as 100,000.

I'm beginning to see why Leo has issues with your AGW stats!
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 22 June 2014 9:35:05 AM
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Dear SPQR,

You accuse me of being one-eyed?

All I'm doing is quoting statistics from
the media and trying to point out that it
isn't a question of turning the issues into
a "Left/Right" debate. What's currently happening
around the country is not about Left/Right but
about what people see is wrong and unfair.
And those concerns come from people on all sides
of politics. And why bring Labor or our former
PM - Julia Gillard into this. It seems as if you're
running out of arguments and resorting to the old tactics
of continually blaming the "other side" instead of coming
up with solutions to the problems. Nobody is buying that
tactic any more. You'll have to do better.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:15:42 AM
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