Leo Lane,

Since you're being pedantic, Leo, I said "one of the lowest" not "the lowest".

I couldn't give a hoot who said it. It's an odious thing to say about anybody just to slug 'em one politically while their grief is still fresh - or at any time.

Regarding Abbott and his empty threat to call a double dissolution if the carbon tax repeal wasn't allowed through.

If that threat wasn't a promise, but this is: "There will be no carbon tax under a government that I lead....”

Is this a promise too...it's the rest of the sentence that you righties always omit from Gillard:

"...but let me be clear: I will be putting a price on carbon and I will move to an emissions trading scheme.”

So you got a carbon price.

Abbott won't call a double dissolution because his party would get done like a dog's dinner, having apprised the nation that they lied and deceived wholesale to win power.

Er...now we know their word means nothing.

At one stage recently the Morgan poll had Labor at 60.5% - and the LNP at 39.5% two party preferred (during the Turnbull stoush). The LNP have since clawed back to around 45%...so don't go holding your breath that Abbott is going to a double dissolution anytime soon.

Poirot, Gillard never said that. You are quoting from Walsh’s biography of Gillard which falsely represents that she said the words “let me be clear etc.”. What a surprise! Another lie from Gillard, this time via a careless or dishonest biographer.
As I said, Abbott will act on a double dissolution only if the dunces put him in a position to do so

We will hold you to that Leo. You are clutching at straws saying that did not come from Gillard.

A price is a price and tax is for everybody, so how much carbon tax have you payed. You are a misinformist just like the mongrel you are pretending to side with.

Abbott will go down in history for many things, continually breaking records, and telling lies to cover lies.

Just remember Abbott says we will save 550$ when and if the Carbon price comes off.

Clive has got some hired help to back him up. Interesting., One of the men Abbott dodged when he was in the USA.

What do you prefer a Carbon tax or give the polluters 2.5 billion of taxpayers money as a default subsidy.

Abbott's retry of the 'Carbon price ' not only consists of the repeal of the carbon price, there is a host of other amendments that go with it. Guess why the opposition to the bill comes from.

Poirot,
yes, you did say one of the lowest but what you should have said & is one of the more apt.
Anyhow, Heffernan's barren was the most apt of all. Not barren as in childless but barren as in soul, character & competence.
Sadly, the ALP hasn't been able to attract any better as yet but they're a magnet for the vindictive hangers-on.
Shorten is just a silly git to fill a void.

Leo Lane,

That's interesting.

I found Larvatus Prodeo trying to get to the bottom of it.

http://larvatusprodeo.net/archives/2013/09/gillards-carbon-tax-promise/

Who knows?

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individual,

Why would I be interested in your repeating Heffernan's stupid comment?

Poirot,
They weren't silly comments, you're too insipid to understand. Huge difference, shame there's no way to make you see.