sbr108, in the scheme of things it is more of an academic argument about whether computer models are right or not. As indicated in previous posts we are seeing climate change in action. Nobody has really taken up arguments that show that I'm wrong about the pragmatics of what is happening. If I was commenting on one or two incidents it would be fair to say that climate change is not shown; but there are several which have been developing over a number of years.
The droughts happening in the Amazon in 2005 and 2010 should have been a wake up call.
Even cohenite elsewhere has stated that climate change is happening but caused by the sun. If that were true (references show its not the case) then adaptation needs to begin straight away.

Just as well we didn't have climate scientists, [or shonks for short], when the Sahara turned from jungle to desert, or they would have been blaming us then too.

I am just so over garbage bull dust ant. Of course climate changes, that's why the place is not a snow ball. I guess we did that too.

Hasbeen stated "... I am just so over garbage bull dust ant."
Yes, Hasbeen, it is very difficult to argue against what is actually happening.
Lord Deben has identified the flooding in Britain earlier this year with anthropogenic climate change. At the same time in the US they were having drought, wildfires, extreme cold and unusual warmth depending on the region. There was a spike in heat stroke deaths in Australia.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/05/uk-floods-could-make-climate-change-action-more-likely-says-lord-deben

Come on ant, for gods sake. Was it people driving SUVs that turned the Sahara from jungle to desert, or lake Mungo from aboriginal paradise to desert?

Do try to get real.

Hasbeen, in everything I have written on On Line Opinion I haven't mentioned SUVs once.
Just suggesting somebody might be wrong is a non response, you need to provide evidence.
For example, you need to be able to give a detailed reason why thermokarst failure is not happening. Or, be able to show that the growth of shrubbery and formation of ponds and small lakes are not forming in tundra areas.