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US National Climate Assessment must be denounced : Comments
By Tom Harris, published 13/5/2014Doing the
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Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 16 May 2014 10:57:48 AM
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*Sigh*
Dear imajulianutter, I did not provide a “mass of unsupported assertions” but rather gave three generally undisputed (by rational human beings) facts. 1. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. 2. Humans are responsible for increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. 3. Basic physics tell us that increased concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere must impact global temperatures. If you are wishing to challenge any of the laws of physics that derive these facts feel free to inform us of which ones they are so we can directly ascertain where your suspension of reality kicks in. Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 16 May 2014 10:59:26 AM
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ant, you have been beaten from pillar to post with your assertions and 'links'; you obviously go to alarmist sites, pick up the latest agitprop and disseminate it without disturbing one neuron. The latest paper by England about the Western Antarctic peninsula about to fall into the sea and droughts in Australia and all the rest is pure bunkum. In fact the WAP is accumulating ice as this 2012 paper shows:
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/pip/2012GL052559.shtml#content AGW is belief and hysteria. Posted by cohenite, Friday, 16 May 2014 11:01:28 AM
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Mr Redux says:
"1. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. 2. Humans are responsible for increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. 3. Basic physics tell us that increased concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere must impact global temperatures." All are half-truths at best. 1 Co2 is photoluminescent; this was established by Tyndall and Arrhenius; however in the real world this laboratory result is confounded by water which dominates the heat absorbing properties of CO2; in any event Beer lambert's law means the heat trapping property of CO2 is exhausted at about 100 ppm. This is confirmed by Hottel's principles. 2 Highly problematic. Henry's law shows that in a warming world natural CO2 will increase form the ocean. It is almost certain that most if not all of the increase in CO2 has a natural origin; see: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=14581 3 Nope; there is no correlation between CO2 and temperature for all time scales. Posted by cohenite, Friday, 16 May 2014 11:09:48 AM
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Back again to the pseudoscience of the NCA Report, ant? I gave you the link to the critique of the report which states “You need to add that you also relied upon non-peer-reviewed grey literature produced by advocacy or political organizations.”.
You come back here again with,” the NCA referenced by over 3,000 papers”. As I pointed out, the NCA Report is pseudo-scientific nonsense, and referencing 3000 papers of non-scientific grey literature changes nothing. You are strongly attached to fraud-backing, so are protective of the ignorance upon which it is based, but the NCA Report is one pack of lies which you now have to let go. http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/06/dissenting-scientists-label-white-house-climate-report-as-pseudoscience/ Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 16 May 2014 12:42:56 PM
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‘morning Steelie,
The question I asked was, If CAGW s is a global issue and requires a global response, where is the global infrastructure? If you do feel there is anything important left, can you tell us what it is? Your answer was a “sandwich board” ? I take it there is “nothing” remaining of CAGW infrastructure otherwise you would have been only too eager to tell us? Just like poor Agro, all you have left is the pseudo-science that you bought from the IPCC, upon which a great CAGW empire was once built. Now the empire is gone and all you have left to play with is the pseudo-science. Posted by spindoc, Friday, 16 May 2014 1:17:46 PM
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“the key question concerns the magnitude of warming caused by the rather small 7 billion tonnes of industrial carbon dioxide that enter the atmosphere each year, compared with the natural flows from land and sea of over 200 billion tonnes.
Despite well over twenty years of study by thousands of scientists, and the expenditure of more than $100 billion in research money, an accurate quantitative answer to this question remains unknown.
Scientists who advise the United Nations (UN) Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) worry that a doubling of carbon dioxide over pre-industrial levels will cause warming of between 3 and 6 deg. Celsius, whereas independent scientists calculate that the warming for a doubling will be much less - somewhere between about 0.3 and 1.2 deg. Celsius.
Meanwhile, the scientific evidence now overwhelmingly indicates that any human warming effect is deeply submerged within planet Earth's natural variations of temperature.
Importantly, no global warming has now occurred since 1997, despite an increase of atmospheric carbon dioxide of 8%, which in turn represents 34% of all the extra human-related carbon dioxide contributed since the industrial revolution.
Few of these facts are new, yet until recently the public have been relentlessly misinformed that human-caused global warming was causing polar bears to die out, more and more intense storms, droughts and floods to occur, the monsoons to fail, sea-level rise to accelerate, ice to melt at unnatural rates, that late 20th century temperature was warmer than ever before and that speculative computer models could predict the temperature accurately one hundred years into the future.
It now turns out that not one of these assertions is true. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/report-gives-the-truth-about-climate-at-last/story-fni0cwl5-1226720428390
AGW is a fraud, Witless, do try to remember, and stop reminding us of what a fool you are.