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Auditing the audit : Comments

By Conrad Liveris, published 2/5/2014

The report has gifted us an opportunity to discuss what we want our nation to look like. Not today nor tomorrow, but in the medium and long terms.

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Some interesting comments Conrad.
We do need to vastly expand our vision, and look up at places like a younger, closer, more democratic India, for far more equitable free trade a agreements.
We need to vastly reform our tax system, to remove inequity, drones, unnecessary parasitical and costly practice; and all avoidance!
And in so doing, produce the most efficient, lowest costing tax rate in the world!
I mean, a single stand alone expenditure tax of just 4.8-5% variable, would collect as much as 100 billion PA more tax, and because it cancels out compliance costs, which such inherent simplicity also eliminates, there are real savings to the bottom line!
At least an averaged 7% in the first instance and more as all other taxes are repealed, save tobacco and alcohol excise; and capital gains, all of which would remain/become purely state revenues!?
The GST, could be replaced by a direct funding model, that coupled to regional autonomy, could add as much as 30% to coal face funding of health and education.
These changes will result in far fewer bureaucrats, and end most duplication.
No one is owed a living!
However, the increased economic activity engendered, will create even more rewarding career opportunities elsewhere.
After tax reform, we need to reinvest in publicly owned energy!
Mostly as cheaper than coal, thorium. And no, not tomorrow but as we decommission current power delivery?
We also need to crack on with nation building projects now, if only to stop them costing us double or quadruple 10-20 years from now.
After that, we really do need to start extracting our own oil, if only to produce the necessary funding, to invest in very large scale alternatives.
We do just that much and we will have the high tech corporations of the world, and literally millions of self funded retirees, beating a path to our door!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 2 May 2014 10:00:16 AM
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Footnote:
Self funded retirees, do not usually produce children, or compete with nationals for jobs!
All of which would become far more abundant as the first result, but particularly in the services sector, and among the largely unskilled! (Second language students, the semi retired)
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 2 May 2014 10:08:06 AM
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ITS funny/but there are many good ideas in the text
and one is impressed at how the public service has deliverd a lot
[mainly because the election [howard lost /knew he was going to loose thus cut 20 billion in tax cuts/ensuring alp would either ned hide jonnies sins..or tax

so the story is presented..a 4 year plan if you will
but it was written by the ones who b.ennifit/the most..ie private insurance that went broke /bust..by the mortgauge swop sloBTHE UNDERWRITERS AND THE BANKERS THEY ALL GOT THEIR BAILOUT CASSH UP

but the game is up
6 may= judgment day
god has a plan/because the godless planned this down to the last death.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 2 May 2014 2:16:35 PM
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AUDIT THIS...[MODIFIERS]
How the Corporate Media and Journalists Perpetuate Lies
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html

and Misinformation About Drugs
By: MTJ
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/corporate-media-journalists-perpetuate-lies-misinformation-drugs/

Maia Szalavitz
RINF Alternative News

Journalists are no less likely to take drugs than anyone else—indeed, in my admittedly anecdotal experience, they’re more likely to use. You’d think that this would make us especially skeptical both about federal policies that failed to prevent our own drug-taking and about extreme claims about drug users.

But the press may actually be one of the biggest obstacles to reform. Instead of asking tough questions, reporters tend to simply parrot conventional wisdom—and reinforce the idea that the drug war is the only way, even when drug warriors’ claims contradict the evidence of the writers’ own lives.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b32_1399054499
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 3 May 2014 11:23:58 AM
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lets audit this?
fake numbers in= bad numbers out
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/its-an-illusion-here-are-the-real-unemployment-numbers_05022014

then the total lack of govt oversight..of poluters and cas cow slurpers/CONSUMING THE 2/3 RDS OF THE GOVT NOT PAYING PENSIONS HEALTH
Enron 2.0: Wall Street Manipulates Energy Prices …
and Every Other Market

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-29/jpmorgan-accused-of-energy-market-manipulation-by-u-s-agency.html

If regulators side with Wall Street — and indications are that they will — expect the cost of electricity to rise from Maine to California as others duplicate this scheme to manipulate the markets, as Enron did on the West Coast 14 years ago, before the electricity-trading company collapsed under allegations of accounting fraud and corruption.

The test case is playing out in New England. Energy Capital Partners, an investment group that uses tax-avoiding offshore investing techniques and has deep ties to Goldman Sachs, paid $650 million last year to acquire three generating plant complexes, including the second largest electric power plant in New England, Brayton Point in Massachusetts.

Five weeks after the deal closed, Energy partners moved to shutter Brayton Point. Why would anyone spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy the second largest electric power plant in New England and then quickly take steps to shut it down?

Energy partners says in regulatory filings that the plant is so old and prone to breakdowns that it is not worth operating, raising the question of why such sophisticated energy-industry investors bought it.

The real answer is simple: Under the rules of the electricity markets, the best way to earn huge profits is by reducing the supply of power. That creates a shortage during peak demand periods, such as hot summer evenings and cold winter days, causing prices to rise. Under the rules of the electricity markets, even a tiny shortfall between the available supply of electricity and the demand from customers results in enormous price spikes.

With Brayton Point closed, New England consumers and businesses will spend as much as $2.6 billion more per year for electricity, critics of the deal suggest in documents filed with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 3 May 2014 2:21:48 PM
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REALLY MOST THE AUDIT WORK HAS BEEN DONE
FOLLOW ON FROM ENRON.point 2.ohh

the government doesn’t even force the banks to admit any guilt as part of their settlements.

Because of this failure to prosecute, it’s not just interest rates. As shown below, big banks have manipulated virtually every market – both in the financial sector and the real economy – and broken virtually every law on the books.

And they will keep on doing so until the Department of Justice grows a pair.
Currency Markets Are Rigged

Currency markets are massively rigged. And see this and this.
Derivatives Are Manipulated

The big banks have long manipulated derivatives … a $1,200 Trillion Dollar market.

Indeed, many trillions of dollars of derivatives are being manipulated in the exact same same way that interest rates are fixed: through gamed self-reporting.
Oil Prices Are Manipulated

Oil prices are manipulated as well.
Gold and Silver Are Manipulated

Gold and silver prices are “fixed” in the same way as interest rates and derivatives – in daily conference calls by the powers-that-be.

commodities manipulated/high frequency trading anipulaTED/REAL ESTATE/INSURANCE PILLS DRUFGS ITS ALL MANIPULATED
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html

http://12160.info/page/bundy-family-takes-fight-to-sheriff-federal-agents-accused-of-cri

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo0Ld5obp5M

http://www.nutritionalanarchy.com/2014/05/02/the-weight-loss-industry-has-absolutely-nothing-to-do-with-health/

http://www.infowars.com/why-the-white-house-is-desperate-to-bury-benghazi/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/macro-analytics-eu-financial-repression-w-john-rubino/

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

yes war is manipulated/too
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SMALL_thhreesteps.jpg
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/07/big-banks-are-criminal-enterprises.html
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 3 May 2014 2:34:59 PM
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HERE IS A PROPER 'AUDIT'
remove profanity?

Obama, Merkel aim to display unity against Russia

CLUE.. watch it without sound first
study the body language*

President Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel are putting on a display of trans-Atlantic unity against an assertive Russia, even as sanctions imposed by Western allies seem to be doing little to change Russian President Vladimir Putin's reasoning on Ukraine.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/02/obama-merkel-to-display-unity-against-russia/

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaLiesAboutRussia.jpg

Merkel is standing right beside Obama in blaming Russia for this whole mess, when all Russia did was allow Crimea of their own free will to join the Russian Republics.

Obama is clearly trying to get WW3 going for real in the hope that the American people will quit paying attention to Benghazi,

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/1/house-gop-obama-withholding-benghazi-email-crimina/

the cratering of Obamacare, NSA spying on us all, IRS used as a political weapon, ETC ETC
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node

and that silly tantrum he threw in which he is threatening to cut off Washington State's highway money unless they take down some signs that wounded his fragile little ego.

I figure after Merkel's fury over NSA spying on her that they found something juicy to get her to go along with this charade. After all, Merkel knows that a sanctions war will destroy Germany's economy, and a real war will wind up being fought on German soil. So she is not going along with this of her own free will.

But as soon as I saw Obama on TV shoveling his bulls-SLit at the American people I grabbed my trusty voice-stress analyzer and put it next to the TV to measure how deep the pile of bulls-tit is. The LED scale goes from green (low stress, probably telling the truth) to red (high stress, lying).

Obama maxed out the system!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/02/obama-merkel-to-display-unity-against-russia/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2014/may/02/arab-villages-lost-israel-war-independence-interactive
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=33166
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 3 May 2014 5:45:26 PM
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U.O.G:
It's actually impossible to find almost anything in any of your extremely hard to follow links, with the domestic economy!

Suggest you put more water with it, or engage brain before engaging fingers!
Suggest you leave cap locks alone, except at the start of a sentence, and then separate your separate points, with your traditional spacing!

And finally, out of simple costless courtesy, follow the appropriate thread, if only to keep your extremely pro-Russian rant, to the right topic line! Da?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 4 May 2014 9:30:53 AM
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FROSTY/quote<<..U.O.G:
It's actually impossible to find almost anything in any of your extremely hard to follow links, with the domestic economy!>>

dear cool[cold]...child please check out just one link

http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=33166

if thats not relevant..to your masters
it just might find relevance to you..AT SOME PERSONAL LEVEL
ONCE YOU LOOSE YOUR SAVINGS SUPER AND INVESTMENTS..THIS AUDIT WAS HOWARDS ORIGINAL CLAW BACK..plan ..if his 20 billion tax cut had of done what john's spin docter dIvided..it would do.

ONE AUDIT >..is [STANDARD..LIP/*\NAt..process]..before SCREWING US
ALL

PRESET/PREDETERMINED/targeted..limited..its the game..if you [read they]..are going to do big change..they..must/do it early..and the vote 1 voter/mugs forget..and blame the outgoing 'member'..for the newesr members chicanery..[the..in ya face/in their pants type members cluttering..up canbrera..and staTE capitals...old schools and club franchises

where is..this nat plan..for the new bank
or rudds plan for infrastructure/bonds/banks

no original thought/just the same lame blame redirection
so they can swell off assets again[the mint the post office private insurance and even im informed the perversion of medibank/ med-care..whatever..

[at the fed level]..and at the state levels more selling off pulic asset..to build private stadiums/ports pipes and pole gold plating for the state[s]free-lunches insider preying.-

selling off loss making[builds]...of infrastructure..AT QUARTER TRUE COST.prices..then/the/MANDATED..RETURN..[and legislation..[[to build more infrastructure to sell at a bigger loss]asa well as underwrite actual loss..of capitalist gains

we retain the 'odious debt'

EITHER THE STATES..finally..GET SERIOUS AND MINE THE RESOURCE/THEM SELVES..for the benefit of all..[or leave it in the ground]..royalties it as below mates rates...IS AS INSANE AS//GIVING THE STATE A SLICE OF INCOME TAX...[i often thought]..that..every thing govt..'owns..[service wise/not physical infrastructure;..that the bankers 'LEASE BACK'..TO US AT HUGE COST]..should be put up for tender..but the PHYSICAL/RESOURCES/assets must retain for the people/BENEFIT[all of us]...not for private/pirates pocketing the profits...once our public purse paid it off.

stuff building infastucture.for capitalist to steal.
Posted by one under god, Monday, 5 May 2014 10:39:16 AM
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TS RATHER FUNNY..the spirits/audit\
begins tomorrow..in brisbane court 20..

and the spirit of synchronicity runs rough

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!
[judgment day*]

"He has combined with others
to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,
and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation::

its funny
then this random chance
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node
YOUR RANDOM DHS MONITORED PHRASE OF THE DAY
finks

[recall the 31/12/began in part by the free assosiation laws]

anyhow let the audit begin
going to do tomorrow/for sure[uness im dead]
brissie maggi COURT 20...6/5/14..[they think its a summery trial]
but its a summer trail..that precedes a nuclear winter..[new clear whiner]

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6293&page=11

ITS OK..IM USUAlY THE ONLY ONE IN COURT appART FROM THE PROSTITUTER AND THE MAGGI/ask me why it wasnT BEFORE A JUDGE?}

let the chips fall where they may
Posted by one under god, Monday, 5 May 2014 4:57:53 PM
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As an auditor I used to qualify company reports to report fraud. If we residents and voters want to audit the Commission of Audit report (which we should and could in Residents Roundtables) we need to follow up by campaigning for the government to accept our recommendations. In 28 years of running FairGO I have found the government very responsive to the requests of voters. Contact Residents Roundtables if interested. Otherwise it is just talk and talk without action achieves very little.
Posted by Fairgo.org, Monday, 5 May 2014 6:06:27 PM
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dear fair go..call me.
Posted by one under god, Monday, 5 May 2014 7:17:55 PM
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http://www.mybudget360.com/global-debt-total-central-bank-balance-sheet-expansion-debt/

dear joe..i wil pay DOUBlE THE PRICE ANYONE ELSE PUTS ON YOUR MINT

THIS IS BAILOUT PAPER SEEKING THE GOLD RIght?

we are goING to sell our gold..for yanKi paper?
http://xrepublic.tv/node/8833

stop seling our wealtH..JOE*
I MEAN IT..AND GIVE BACK TEstra water power
and get rid of oDIOUS CONTRACTS..ODIOUS DEBT..ITS TIME TO CLAW BACK THE THEFT
CLOSE DOWN THE PRIVATE PUBLIC SERRVANT PENSION SLUSH FUND
AND RENATIONAISE EVERYTHING THIEVES HASVE STOLEN FRO THE PEOPLE BY ACTS OF HIGH treasoN

times up
GIGS UP...YOU recover the ;ooted booty..OR ELSE.
Posted by one under god, Monday, 12 May 2014 9:36:49 AM
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An important topic, exactly the sort of issue on which we should spend time airing our views on this forum.

Sadly, already drowned in irrelevances.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 12 May 2014 10:49:24 AM
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