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Why Ukraine matters to Australia? The answer is China : Comments

By Peter Hendy, published 23/4/2014

The urgent concern for his country is that the recent annexation of the Crimean peninsula may within days be followed by an invasion of the remainder of their country by Russia.

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What an appallingly hypocritical piece! All fingers pointing at Russian aggression, with nary a work on the openly aggressive manner of the western-led disposal of the elected, if unpopular, Ukraine government.
The very informative blog, http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.au/, has a thought provoking article today on how hypocrisy was the underlying cause behind the collapse of the Soviet Union. When the citizens of a country can no longer believe what they are told by their government, disillusionment sets in, disconnect becomes the norm and collapse will soon follow.
This author, and our current Abbott led government with Ms Bishop acting as sycophant-in-chief in her role as Foreign Minister might do well to reflect on that.
Posted by halduell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 8:26:25 AM
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how are ya peter
have you heard todays broadcast?
[at the 28 minute mark]
http://whatreallyhappened.com/podcasts/hourtitle1.m3
what is a egus suitE digetal interface radar
RUSSIA..shut it down

one plane shut down a yanki
over engenererd lump..OF CAPO-TALIST of contractor junk

then over/flew THE HELPLESS YANKI BOAT..12 timES

THE WAR IS OVER
AND NOT A SHOT NEEDED TO BE DONE

DONT PUSH TOO HARD..thats nothing to what china has.

lock up some of the crooks
seize their assets..peace is come
judgment day begins 6 may

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6293&page=11
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 11:07:34 AM
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YOUR CLEARLY NOT A CHESS PLAYER
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_22/Putin-instructs-to-set-zero-VAT-on-air-traffic-to-and-from-Russias-Crimea-from-June-1-4373/

ok try again
THAT LINK LED NO WHERE
AGAIN
28 th minute
1 ST hour of the show..[TODAYS SHOW]
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/podcast.php

http://www.globalresearch.ca/polands-hand-in-ukraine-coup-detat-trained-putchists-two-months-in-advance/5378655
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/duplicitous-human-rights-misinformation-ukraine/
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-02-220414.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zVgy9Jk0Ec
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Peddler_of_Iraq_War_Lies_Now_Pushes_Lies_On_Urkaine_to_Drum_Up_Confrontation_with_Russia/34642/0/0/0/Y/M.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_20833_5-slapstick-failures-by-modern-military-commanders.html
http://12160.info/group/embedding-is-not-a-crime/page/watch-michael-rivero-on-america-s-book-of-secrets-the-gold-conspi?xg_source=activity

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=16686
http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:BlogPost:1456005?xg_source=activity
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/21/russia-ukraine_n_5188137.html
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/need-thieving-warmongering-ruling-class/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-elite-the-great-game-and-world-war-iii/25160
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/bob-dole-talks-starting-world-war-three/
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-us-government-has-put-full-time.html

https://securityledger.com/2014/03/is-analog-the-answer-to-our-digital-insecurity-dilemma/
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 11:28:02 AM
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‘morning Peter,

I like to get the big picture issues clear before delving into content, this helps focus on the main issues and avoids complex diversions.

My perhaps over simplistic perspective on the Ukraine is that Putin got sick of the EU overtures that were seen as a direct threat to strategic military, energy and geo-political assets.

Why did he do this? Because he can.

He stared down the weak, ineffective, incompetent, dithering, verbose Barak Obama over the Syrian chemical weapons and that finished the last remnants of US political will.

Whilst there are those who think US disengagement in the region is a good thing, there are also those who can see that Putin now has license to do what he wants. Thanks to meddling EU, UN and NATO bureaucracies and a totally ineffective US administration.

All the US can do now is run “interference”.

As for China, I am more inclined to see China’s motives as less to do with shared Russian motives and more to do with wobbly US foreign policy.

I see little to justify making this other than failed US/EU political maneuvering that back fired
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:01:29 PM
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Sadly articles like this will always attract the spiteful comments of those who believe the West, and especially the United States, is inherently corrupt and evil, while finding excuses for every act of ruthlessness and aggression of those forces that oppose it. We have heard over and over again comments about how the unpopular but legitimate government of Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown by a bunch of neo-Nazis - a view happily supported by the Kremlin. The Yanukovych government was not simply unpopular, it was corrupt and incompetent, witnessed by the state of the economy it left behind. Even this may have been born by voters until the next election, but when Yanukovych cut off talks with the European Union, seen by many Ukrainians as their only lifeline to a tolerable future, they had to act. As for his successors, I have studied the backgrounds of all the prominent members of the current Cabinet and find they are across the political spectrum. Some are certainly on the right, but to suggest the entire government is neo-Nazi or even far right is arrant nonsense.
Posted by Graham Cooke, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:22:18 PM
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All very worrying developments for Australia, and the best reason yet, to crack on and just develop our own indigenous hydrocarbon resources, wherever they lay.
It is just lunacy, to be slowly going broke while presiding over energy resources, that may rival or even eclipse the known hydrocarbon resources of the entire M.E!
The key to both these conflicts is oil, and lots of it!
We just need to reconstitute Government owned oil and gas corporations, reacquaint ourselves with the, private enterprise tender and contractual processes, and just get on developing what we already know about, like the 5 billion barrels of sweet light crude, believed to be in the Townsville trough!
5 billion x $130 dollars x 500 litres per barrel, is around 7,00500 billions worth of oil in that one single trough alone.
Nonetheless, the estimates are likely to be very conservative, and the oil in that one trough, possibly three times as much!
And there are even more promising prospects a little further out?
No further harm would befall those parts, [around 50%,] already dead and stripped of living coral.
Besides all that, our own indigenous sweet light crude, produces four times less hydrocarbons in actual use, from the wellhead to the harvester, than that which we currently import, and in a round-a-bout way, actually underwrite some of the Russian military swagger and or build up!
After the Townsville trough, we could use some of the quite massive profits we'd make, to explore and exploit some of even more promising prospects further out!
Simply put, large reliable liquid fuel supplies, would take the heat out of Asia, as would additional gas supplies.
And if we could send some of both to Europe, to make good any shortfalls created by trade sanctions against Russia, that would also help!
As would huge reserves, that could be wholesaled for around what it costs Russia and or Dutch Shell to extract, around $10.00 a litre?
Oil is an economic weapon, that can be used bite back/extract clench fisted compliance, but particularly, if you have decades worth of reliable supplies!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:36:36 PM
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