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Holy days and 'total work' : Comments

By Justine Toh, published 17/4/2014

Whether you believe the Easter story or not, in a world of 'total work' the tale is otherworldly enough to disturb our notions of work and rest.

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Well, U.O.G. the ultimate work incentive, would have to be a nearly naked man nailed to a cross, at the workplace?
Perhaps accompanied by smoking ovens and the words over the main entrance, "work will set you free".
It's interesting how some religious devotees play with words to impart more power to the subject matter?
Take the story of Lazarus.
In my day, he was raised from the dead, now he is raised from the grave.
I guess someone discovered CPR, and thought, that's no big deal anyone could do it, lets amp it up for effect?
And was the master trying to prove eternal life and Resurrection?
Or just reincarnation?
Certainly his evocation, (alleged,) that we must be born again of water and the spirit, could more strongly represent his view, that reincarnation, was his and a common belief among early esoteric Christians, and indeed, made them fearless, in the face of vicious lions, at the occasional Colosseum?
The changes, bible revision, have been going on for literal centuries.
The earliest known example of the holy bible, (in some German museum?) has very little in common with that relied on today!
In the final analysis, being a christian is a way of life, and applicable to all who are our good Samaritans, rather the people who go to church, beat their chests and say, look at me lord and how holy I am!
Then return to their weekday occupations, selling death trap rust buckets to the unwary!
Ripping off the elderly, who can no longer cope with the daily routine and must engage help!
Or fat bankers, plucking zillions from thin air, then exchanging worthless paper for items of real value, leaving literal millions of ordinary mums and dads, bereft of their tiny nest egg retirement funds etc/etc!
There are other criminal con artists, trying to swindle a place in a very limited queue, (allegorical) reserved for genuine refugees and or asylum seekers! And we could take more of the latter!
I say, don't pound the pulpit and preach a pious christian message!
Just live it!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 18 April 2014 10:21:15 AM
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A research fellow suffering from overwork, god give me strength.

I would love to give these shiny bums a few tools, a quarter acre, & some seed, & tell them to produce or starve. Then they might know what hard work really is. They would have no time for leisure activities, they would crave only sleep after a day's work. They would however have all the time they could use for contemplation. Nothing offers more scope for that than an endless repetitive mindless task, such as hoeing weeds.

Then he tells us to praise the Creator. Why? If there is such an entity our creation was done for it's amusement, not our betterment. I fail to see what is praiseworthy in that, unless it won a prize for creating a better zoo.

Actually I think Justine would be much better off, & probably happier, if we found some real work for him to do. All this gazing at his navel to produce articles like this can't be good for anyone.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 18 April 2014 1:00:06 PM
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It’s a strange attitude to work which sees it only as something that we need to get away from. Many people do have jobs which are little more than drudgery and that is a problem for society. This is changing and people are increasingly more engaged by their work. Many people have very fulfilling and exciting jobs and this should be the hope for all human beings. These people do not long for rest and relaxation but take it simply because those things are good in themselves – equally as rewarding as work. Life is made up of many and varied experiences which have the potential to give enjoyment and satisfaction. The aim should be to eradicate things like drudgery from society so that all can fulfil their right to happiness.

Such a goal is only hampered when religious people do not ‘pull their weight’. Religious people create an imaginary world where all drudgery is abolished, where work does not exist and where all injustices are righted by eternal reward or punishment. They have stopped trying to improve their own welfare and that of their fellow human beings by opting out of this world in favour of living in their imaginary one. Their focus is totally elsewhere whilst everyone else gets on with the business of improving society. They ride on the coat tails of such improvements but have done nothing except try and frustrate the efforts of those who live in the real world. Sure, they do their jobs because even those who live in imaginary worlds have to eat but they are unable to contribute much or to be creative when it comes to solving society’s problems.

Articles such as this one just try and re-enforce the kind of defeatism of medieval times and the hopelessness of societies which are trapped in third world poverty. It is no co-incidence that the most religious countries are the ones who are most underdeveloped. These people need hope and help in the real world not encouragement to throw up their hands in defeat.
Posted by phanto, Friday, 18 April 2014 2:56:19 PM
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Nature never meant humans to work as hard as they have had to over the last few millennia. Tribal and pre-recorded-history societies only worked a few hours a week to obtain the resources needed to stay alive. Much of the rest of their time was devoted to family, social interaction and spiritual pursuits.

Excessive work is the main feature of so-called advanced societies. These are characterised by an embedded hierarchical structure, often brutally enforced, in which the multitude is enslaved to maintain the parasitic comfort of a small few.

In feudal times, it was structured by a system of slavery based on indentured tenants working the lands of the nobility. With the Industrial Revolution, enslavement to the nobility gave way to enslavement to the industrialists and factory owners.

In the last hundred years, debt has been the main means of enslaving the populace and today's feudal nobility are the financiers and global corporations.

In all such societies, huge moral and spiritual weight is given to work as one's sole measure of worth - and conversely, an unwillingness to work is met with the highest moral outrage. Short of an apocalyptic cataclysm, this system will continue in some form or another. There's not much that can be done about it.

All we as individuals can do is to try to keep our debt and overheads as low as possible. The less you owe to anyone, the less opportunity the bastards have to enslave you.
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 18 April 2014 11:08:01 PM
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WHO..IS THEY KILLY?

curious..we are about to be raked over the coals
RAPED FOR MORE TAXES/FEES FINES LEVIES/BAIL-IN DEBT
and were talking about fiction[CREED]
WHEN JESUS SAID ITS ABOUT GREED..lol

we are missing the bigger picture
this NEW NEW SOUTH WHALES PREMIER.. is another ex banker*
[VIA SIGNING FOR A BOTTLE OF WINE.]

recall ukrane=BANKER/became president OF UKRANE..[IN A COUP]
GREECE GOT A BANKER....BELISCOINIE[italy] GOT REPLACED BY ...A BANKER

seeing a pattern//here?
nsw gets its own banker

yet..here is a book/that began as a fiction
but research turned up so much..truth..it became a classic

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=presidents+bankERS

Prins lays out a long history of the relationships between U.S. Presidents and bankers that date back to Teddy Roosevelt and JP Morgan.

understand?

THE system IS GOING FULL ON
TO discredit an enemy/any enemy..simply trying to reveal truths
[20 war vets die each day?..their making their problems go away

trouble WITH FICTIONS/THEIR OFTEN BIASED IN FACT
it needs distractions[re-actions.MENTAL activations/diS-motivations..

IF/it can get on screen/to instill fear..
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2014/37_of_voters_fear_the_federal_government

OR HOPE
http://warisacrime.org/content/war-good-us-dumb-new-book-claims

WHATS YOURS SAYING?..

[HERE IS SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER]
REGARDING FALSE FAGS
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ARTICLE5/index.php
AND SET UP STINGS/OTHER THINGS

http://rss.infowars.com/20140418_Fri_Alex.mp3

ENDLESS THINGS..AND GOD NEEDS IT TO END UP
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/measles-witch-hunt-anti-vax-parents-burned-at-the-propaganda-stake_042014
WITHOUT EVIL WINNING YET AGAIN..using the same old grand scam
buy up big..then let it all fall down in a heap/knowing what to keep

or make special privledge for them/licence theft
http://theinternetpost.net/
give me your house..or loose it

then..again.in this day/age..they simply hyperinflate their debt away
force us to pay for their next pay day..as the vaue of our money drains away
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

http://theinternetpost.net/2014/04/18/believe-only-half-of-what-you-see-and-none-of-what-you-hear/

ONLY THE TRUTH CAN SET US FREE
http://www.newsforage.com/2014/04/world-bank-wants-water-privatized.html
GET RID OF WATER POINTS
http://xrepublic.tv/node/8466

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-kosher-trinity-and-jewish-quantum-mechanics.html

WIKISEED/WIKigeld
s.u.n treaty
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 April 2014 10:30:01 AM
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Right on Killarney.
Nowadays, the "Master" wouldn't be limited to losing his cool and taking to the money changers, whipping them out of temple, but arguably every other parasitical class, that extract their unearned profit, via entirely unproductive middle man profit taking practice?
And he wouldn't be limited to Temples, let me assure you, but every other building, where any of this parasitical double handling, make work behavior was carried on, including banks, boardrooms, bureaucratic offices and various backrooms etc/etc!?
[Extracting unearned profit is exactly what the money changers were doing!]
If we could but remove this single, entirely unproductive element, from our midst?
We'ed virtually halve the cost of living, and almost everything else, almost over night. And or cease chasing additional work, like a dog chasing its tail!
With the worst example of entirely unproductive parasite practice, I believe, being our highly convoluted tax system, and the sheer number number of, or parasitical practices and profits it represents?
We could quite markedly increase internal revenue, all while quite massively lowering everyone,s personal tax burden, and indeed remove compliance costs, which currently impact more harshly on the bottom line, than the single stand alone expenditure tax, we could replace all of that harmful complexity with!
Naturally, those with any skin in middleman profit taking or nonessential complexity, will bellow like wounded bulls, and respond most powerfully with a massive BS campaign and cashed up lobbyists, I believe, trying to purchase political compliance or continuing cooperation, or just covert continuance or cover ups?
And elicit excuses, like its a scrambled egg that can't be unscrambled etc/etc, ad nuseum?
ICAC revelations are, I believe, just the tip of the corruption iceberg and the protection of endless reward, for no real or productive output elitism?
If we would get rid of it, there's no other choice than to put the incumbent last on the voting list, at least until, we have replaced all the dross and elitist elements, with people who will work for us and just us!
Two or three one term Governments, should impart that message, and or, outcome?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 19 April 2014 11:06:47 AM
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