Good evening to you IMJULIANUTTER...

A great WW1 General to be sure, was Sir John Monash. Nevertheless, it's the grunts that 'went over the top' and who died by the hundreds, and hundreds. In that era, most of the British Generals were manifestly incompetent. Even the likes of Winston Churchill.

By his own hand, "Bruce Haigh is a conscripted member of the ADF." Utter bull!

Bruce Haigh is NOT a "conscripted member of the ADF" because there aren't any. There was once upon a time, but not any more. By including tripe like this and his heartstring-pulls with all his family's prior service is just so much rubbish.

He's a lefty, socialist whiner who knows nothing about the ADF and whether any general is up to scratch - even if he's met a few.

Well put Captain Col.

The fool can't distinguish a good prime minister from a no hoper, why would we believe he would be any better judge of generals.

I'm with you there o sung wu, Churchill & his Boys Own Book type daring do, killed a very large number of men who did not have to die.

Yet another "How can I twist a topic to make it relate to Australia's refusal to admit anybody who wants to come to Australia?" from Bruce Haigh.

Bruce submits the extraordinary position that unless Australia's military top brass commits mutiny and refuses to obey the democratically elected government of Australia on this issue, then they are morally bereft and therefore military incompetent. Yeah, sure Bruce.

I know that this is a bit hard for you to understand, but our military leaders just may consider the mass invasion of Australia by boat people from cultures and religions contrary and hostile to our own culture as exactly a job that the defence forces are designed for. You must live under a rock if you can't figure out that there is more than one way to invade and conquer another country. Ask the Ukrainians and Serbs about that.

How you ever got in into your head that anyone who wants to come to Australia should just get on a boat in Indonesia and we should not stop them is a mystery to me. Is it because you want to destroy your own culture? Do you want to send Australia broke importing people into a welfare state who have never paid a penny for it's upkeep? Or is it just personal vanity, where you want to think of yourself as ah, so ferking morally superior to the majority of Australia's population?

o sung wo,

Monash invented the rolling barrage in WWI. That saved the lives of a great many men. The Americans adopted his tactics and won that war with them.

He was seconded to the US forces and was revered in the US.

He had influence far greater than any other general of the 20th century.

The Germans in WWII studied his tactics and developed the Blitzkrieg from them.

We in Australia do not celebrate him as much as we should. He was not just a great officer. He was also a brilliant tactician.

Winston Churchill was never a General. He was First Lord of the Admiralty during WWI and WWII. He was a commander on the Western Front in WWI.

Opening a front in the Dardanelles against the Ottoman Empire was his suggestion. Had that been successful it would have shortened the War by years. The cause of it's failure has never been truly revealed. He was never in command of it's execution and was never blamed for it's failure. He was held responsible as it became regarded as a folly.

Churchill and Monash should not be included in your deprecating postings. Wars and battles are won by leadership, tactics, courage and luck not just by troops.

how the left hate to see what they sprouted could not be done now being done. It took a fair bit of what Bruce call 'moral courage'. The previous Government had no backbone and was a laughing stock of the world. I suggest Bruce understand if he is going to talk about morality that he realises how dumb and contradictory the moral relativism dogma is. I wonder from what 'moral ' base he draws his conclusions. His analogies are atrocious.