Zoe,
Has Norrie May Welby ever stated that he has any of the above conditions? As far as I can tell his choices are based on "feelings", not a medical condition and that's the issue which is bothering a lot of people. The answer to why LGBTI people are prone to make a scene over their sense of identity and start making demands is usually "because feelings" and the prevailing mood among the general population is that while people with genuine medical needs should be assisted wherever possible the whimsical or eccentric choices of otherwise medically fit people should not be validated or facilitated by the state.

Bren - two issues:

First, if there's even one person in the whole country where the law contradicts reality, then the law is wrong.

Second - I've shown within the 350 word limit that trans people were born the sex they say they were. If records are to be accurate, they must be updated to reflect the true biological situation. By all means keep an audit trail, but such a trail has to be strictly private. Either the birth certificate is an ID document reflecting current data, or it's a secret only used in auditing by court order or by security organisations.

My UK birth certificate says "boy". The UK Gender Recognition Act requires a person changing sex to be Transsexual, and *technically* I'm not, I'm Intersex, so not covered. The change was a massive relief though, so in psychological terms, I'm as trans as they come.

Such cases as mine are not hypothetical, unlike fears of fraud. See http://home.vicnet.net.au/%7Eaissg/2010_FamCA_237.pdf

>> For those transsexuals who had previously been married and had children, a revised birth certificate (showing their altered sex) would potentially cause confusion in other registers.

The male reproductive system only requires one partially functioning gland to work, given technical help (biopsy, extraction with syringe etc). The female one is more complex.

Motherhood was never possible for me. Fatherhood was - just - with technical help - despite my being female. That's reality. The bureaucratic regulations must adjust to my son's existence. They are supposed to be our servants, not our masters.

I do feel I should apologise for being so much trouble - but it's not as if I had a choice here.

Hi Brendan, If you are going to refer to chromosome content, then you need to keep in mind that as well as XX [female] and XY [male], there is a bewildering array of other chromosomal irregularities.
These include X0 and Y0 [no second chromosome], XYY, XXY and XXX.
While these are rare to extremely rare, there are nevertheless large numbers of them worldwide. There is, as far as I recall, a very weak numerical link [not strong enough to be statistically significant] between XYY and higher levels of criminality.
The simplistic "vagina = girl" or "penis = boy" birth classification falls over when chromosomes are studied.

Brian

I am not denying the existence of either rare chromosomal irregularities or physical conditions that make determination of sex problematic. If these conditions existed at birth, I would not have a problem with the baby's sex being classified as "non-specific" on a Birth Certificate.

What I am opposed to is an untruthful public record.

The realty is that 99% plus of children don't have these issues. Where a person is unambiguously of a given sex at birth and later has a sex change operation, the public record should show just that. Simply changing the birth certificate to give the impression that they were the assumed sex since birth,is inapproprate in such cirumstances.

Jay of Melbourne, are you Bisexual, homosexual, transgender or intersexual, if not, what gives you the right to demean fellow Australians.
When you live one day in their shoes you can comment, otherwise keep your moral/bigotry to yourself.

Kipp, focus sweetie, the subject is gender, not sex
There's no such thing as variations of sexuality, sexual intercourse is procreation between a male and a female, if a child is the goal or the unintended result of the initmacy then sex has occurred,all other intimate contact is non sexual including where birth control is used by opposite sex couples.
So no, I'm not homo,hetero, bi, queer or anything else, I'm a man who has had sexual intercourse with his wife maybe three or four times resulting in two successful pregnancies but who has engaged with her in other intimate activity, lovemaking if you will, on countless other occasions over the past 25 years.
Have you ever had sexual intercourse?
You're just playing the Leftist strawman game, if you'd followed my posts you'd know I've reversed by thinking on same sex weddings and that I've never had a problem with Queers, Gays or any other sub culture..it's your politics which is the problem.
What's notable though is that through it's agitation your side is adept at gaining the opposite result to it's stated goals, the way things are going there will be no socially acceptable recognition of "sexuality" or "marriage" as you define it.
Who are we to judge right? OK, there's no such thing a variation or orientation of sexuality so I can't judge you on any fundamental or personal quality and I assert no "right' to do so, lest I look a fool. Let's just say we'll not judge you on the colour of your g-string or the hammer and sickle printed thereon but by the content of your character. We good old cobber?