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Does size matter? An economic perspective on the population debate : Comments

By Andrew Leigh, published 28/3/2014

Population growth has the potential to get us things we cannot obtain in other ways: better cultural goods and a more productive, more entrepreneurial culture. A larger nation has more mouths, but also more minds.

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Like Tanton has commonly complained about anybody being able to breed..... begs the question, many of the sustainable population type protagonists seem to assume that they can decide who breeds, who immigrates etc..... bit autocratic..... and what factors do we base this slection on? IQ, physical attributes, religion, social class etc.? Slippery slope....
Posted by Andras Smith, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 9:02:42 PM
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Malcolm 'Paddy' King, if you ever had any credibility (cough!) it just vanished.
The article is from The Onion, a *satirical* website.
It's not news, it's a joke.

Even if *world* population needed to fall, there's no need to kill anyone.
Nor does that mean *our* domestic population must fall.

100% of us die, sooner or later.
Since everyone dies, what you really need to control is the addition of *more* people.

We can stop growing our own population (and its resource consumption) by stopping or severely reducing immigration.

"I know where I'd start."

Yeah, but let me guess, you don't own any weapons.
But the right-wing nationalists do.
Guess who's going first?

Andras Smith "assume that they can decide who breeds, who immigrates"

Those are two completely different things.
Newsflash: The government *decides* who will immigrate every day.
Posted by Shockadelic, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 3:19:02 PM
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Hey Shocker, now I get it, "lets make a joke about exterminating people" said the SPA.

"yeah, that will get us some great publicity," said the SPP. "We only got .2 of the vote last election."

"It will certainly confirm to those who haven't made up their mind about us, that we're certainly a pack of fruit loops and not worth the time of day," said the SPA.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 6:50:54 PM
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Malcolm 'Paddy' King

SPA didn't organise that one, sorry to disappoint. But I hope it makes people think. There are now an increasing number of warnings that we are facing collapse from either oil and other resource shortages,or from climate change. A four degree warmer world will only be able to support one billion people, not seven billion, and four degrees warmer is exactly where we're heading. So we have a choice either to shift to a low carbon economy (with limited resource throughput) very very quickly, or we adapt to a warmer climate that will not feed the people we have, let alone another couple of billion. That adaptation will have to include a reduction in population, however it's accomplished (let's hope it's not nasty).

This is not an ideological position - it's an intelligent response to the challenges that confront us. We should all be fighting this together.
Posted by popnperish, Thursday, 3 April 2014 9:06:27 AM
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popnperish,

very nicely put. I concur.
In casting their nasty eugenics aspersions Andras Smith and Paddy allude to their own method of dealing with overpopulation: ideological indifference at the inevitable collapse of the pyramid and the billions who support it.
Posted by Squeers, Thursday, 3 April 2014 10:02:23 AM
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Malcolm 'Paddy' King, the SPA obviously have a sense of humour, and the intelligence to recognise the difference between the serious/factual and the absurd/fictional.

People like you accuse others of what you yourselves are doing.
Obliterating entire peoples (by displacement).
You're the genocidalists.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 3 April 2014 6:19:29 PM
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