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Are Russia's positions on Ukraine and Crimea legal? : Comments

By Ali Omidi, published 17/3/2014

The ethnic Russian people living in Ukraine and Crimea are not considered Russian nationals. Therefore, Russia is not legally authorized to resort to the 'saving citizens' doctrine.

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Ali. At best, this is a vacuous exercise- though its import is more anti-Russian propaganda ( and you managed to avoid mention of the invasion of Iraq). The closest you come to reality is “ the measure taken by Russia is a reaction to the measures taken by the West's political and ideological hegemonic system”.
The overwhelming majority of people in Crimea regard themselves as Russians ,and fearful of the consequences of the coup in Kiev, they have voted, as is their basic democratic right, to return to Russia, where they were, until ‘gifted’ to Ukraine in 1954. In Kiev, outside interference supercharged legitimate protest against corrupt oligarch Yanukovych into a Western engineered coup- Putin was too busy with his multi-billion dollar Winter Olympics. Since then, Russia has been reacting to threats to its national security- encirclement by NATO, and specifically in Crimea the Black Sea Fleet.
Plantagenet raises a valid point, but in a misleading way. When the coup leaders implement IMF/EU/ NATO measures to avoid default, and those who identify as Russians in Eastern and Southern Ukraine resist, and then appeal to Russia for help, there will be a real prospect for military conflict.
Posted by Leslie, Monday, 17 March 2014 5:47:04 PM
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At least some here know what the Western Imperialists are up to. The Ukraine has been looted by the West since it's departure from the USSR. The West is trying to weaken and surround Russia and China to establish their "New World Order" of rule by elite corporates and bankers.

The USA tried to put nuke missiles in Georgia and now want to put them right next to Russia in the Ukraine. Would the USA stand for the destabilisation of Canada or Cubia by Russia and then put nukes right next to the USA ?

It is grand hypocrisy by the USA who have interfered and invaded dozens of countries since WW2 under the lie of preserving freedom and democracy.

Gerald Celente has a new expression for the USA and the West. Their new collective name is Dumbfukistan, because our morons are too busy following sport, Hollywood and believing our Presstitute Media to really know how they are being lied to and screwed.

Just read 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' by John Perkins and learn about the really evil empire that wants to enslave the entire planet.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 17 March 2014 6:53:53 PM
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Hi Leslie

The mob "coup" - invite in the Russian Army - enforced Referendum tactic used in Crimea (with some legal and historical justification) may well be misused by Putin wherever Russian majorities are perceived. An re-expansion of the Russian Empire into the 3 Baltic states and especially Moldova-Transnistria may well be on the cards.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria#Russian_military_presence_in_Transnistria

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 17 March 2014 9:24:06 PM
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We have heard how many voted to join Russia.
How many voted to stay with the Uktaine ?

errr whats that ? There was no such question in the voting paper !

Oh, I see, either be an independent state or become part of Russia.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 17 March 2014 10:22:05 PM
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The USA has 900 Military bases around this planet and their private banking system does not yet fully control Russia, China, North Korea, Syria, Iran and a few others. They want both financial and military dominance of the entire planet.

It is the West that is in financial dire straights by letting private banks create debt out of thin air that depreciates their currencies. Russia and China could crash the US economy by the simply not trading in US $. At the recent G20 meeting China lambasted the USA for living off the fumes of money printing.

In the West production is down, unemployment is way up but the financial sector is supported by "quantitative easing". When the US $ collapses the West will see hyper-inflation destroy their economies and we don't have much industry to work our way out of this mess.

Putin has the big economic cards but the USA has the weapons. Yes we are at war and only the bankers will win since they always back both sides.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 8:01:47 AM
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Yes Plantagenet, it is known as the Sudanten principle as advocated by A Hitler.
It was applied in Georgia and was tried in Latvia but did not come off.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 8:27:38 AM
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