Squeers
"the fact that you cleave so obstinately to free market logic as humanity's saviour"

that assumes (three times) that you're right in the first place without any justification why = stupidity

"appointing capitalist economics a devastating evolutionary role"

meaningless jargon, assuming you're right in the first place = stupidity

"explains your hatred"

mind-reading, misrepresentation, bitter ad hom, fallacy = stupidity

"... of the humanities"

completely confuses private with public ownership of the means of production - and this guy's got a PhD in Marxism! - stupidity

"but does nothing to validate its rightness"

ignores the reasons I have just given, does not answer them, gives no reason in favour of his own argument, just assumes he's right without any reason = stupidity

"It is in fact anti-humanism in practice"

a mere insult, no reason given, no connection to the argument or issues, assumes he's right = stupidity

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Remember under all this jargon and haughty insult, what Squeers is saying is it's "anti-human" for the workers to be permitted by their political overlords to keep what they have earnt by their work. They should be forced by threats of imprisonment to pay for Squeers to learn and teach that sh!t at their expense. That's what he's arguing.

"I would, and have already suggested (and canvassed elsewhere) propose definite humanitarian policies, which don't rely on dogmatism from left or right."

You are lying. You have been specifically asked what form of government and what form of policies, and you have gone quite, run away, and re-appeared running the same bitter hateful incoherent slogans.

Squeers is showing what a PhD in the humanities from Australian universities does. There. Are you satisfied now that the workers should be forced to pay for that amazing intellectual standard and benefit to society?

It's nauseating hypocrisy.

Chris
If people don't want it, why should they be forced to pay for it?

All
You see, what Squeers and Chris and other academics have learnt, is that you can get paid to spew out a stream of slogans and jingles and illogical assumptions. The work is easy, it’s clean, there’s no heavy lifting, no-one would voluntarily pay them to do it. And what they say doesn’t have to be true, or make any logical sense at all, in fact it can be known to be blatantly incorrect, and anti-rational and anti-human and even positively genocidal, like killing millions of people in the third world so conceited academics can feel good about alleged global temperatures.

But so long as the slogans, jingles and assumptions, insult and abuse the very idea of liberty and property, so long as they preach open-ended justifications of unlimited government power, the State has use for them. This is because the state is itself a monopoly of the violation of liberty and property. To justify the protection racket, they need high priests to preach that Pharaoh can do no wrong, that He makes the rivers to flow.

Libertarians teach that that's all bullsh!t, so obviously the State doesn't want to propagate that! That's why Marxoidism infests academe: it's teaches uncritical hypocritical lying self-contradictory State-worship.

Now if you go back and read everything that has been said by the leftists in this thread, you’ll see that perfectly describes what they’re doing.

For example, Tristan, Chris and Squeers have all argued, or rather assumed, that the humanities *wouldn’t exist* if it wasn’t for government. They are just crawling up the arse of their political masters, simple as that.

Of course, if the socialists were about human liberation, why would they all be preaching that the ordinary people have no right to the fruits of their labour but what is left over after their political overlord class have taken as much as they want, and spent it on propaganda and lies?

The fact these guys are talking hypocritical bullsh!t, and the fact they are so passionately defending, not “the humanities”, but GOVERNMENT FUNDING OF the humanities is not some kind of strange coincidence.

JKJ,
you're a fundamentalist libertarian whose plan for humanity finds its closest analogy in evolution, where apex predation is the norm and a neofeudalist dystopia emerges. If that isn't anti-humanism I don't know what is.
I've engaged with you at length before and don't intend to repeat the folly; your doctrine is impervious to argument.

Squeers
Jouissance - is there any chance Jardine or Jayb will at least google the word?
For in their defence of the prevailing vacuity, I have hopes that this one word offers them some hope of self awareness of their pitiful condition.

Jouissance - how well it depicts their emotional adolescent triumphalism. They need read nothing, just sit at their screens, trousers at the ankles, one hand on the keyboard, and a repeated masturbatory satisfaction is assured.

Only ask them to articulate what they themselves value and they are struck dumb.
For in truth Jouissance does not readily permit of serious self reflection, it requires incensant masturbation to keep it at bay.

Instant self gratification, celebrity, sports, status and insatiable consumption - these are the values they cannot articulate. To avoid confronting their own vacuity they will apply any and every desperate diversion.

It is precisely this unreflectiveness which the humanities can and do expose and entirely explains their enmity. For if they were to really look in the mirror, they are in fear of turning to pillars of stone.

They're caught in the matrix.

Your entire post is ridicules. You know what they say about Goannas don't you.

Jouissance, "Oh! It hurts so good." Good'n nuff f'r ya. See, I've got a sense of humour. ;-)

Now back to you previous post as this one is not worthy of an answer or retort.

YEBIGA: I don't believe Jayb or Jardine are even remotely genuine.

Oh yes I am.

YEBIGA: Why do we need the humanities? I don't know, why do we need government? Why do we need laws?

Are you suggesting that Humanities are up there with Government & Law making. I don't think so. Humanities is a "Snobs Hobby." For people who would otherwise be useless at anything else, like tying shoelaces. As you mentioned jouissance, "My Humanities feel so good it hurts." See, & it does have a relationship with Goannas.

YEBIGA: To ask questions like those above requires a severe level of ignorance or sedation.

Quite the opposite, intelligence (134, consistent over 50 years) & awareness. I know, 134 isn't all that great but it is still well above the average.

YEBIGA: What exactly does a marketing student learn?

Easy, how to lie to people & make it sound good & how to prey on peoples fear.

YEBIGA: What does a business course give you?

Nothing, As my old CEO said, "We don't use that stuff because we have a business to run." Aah... Political Correctness & how to suck up to the boss & pass the buck.

YEBIGA: These business courses are out of date by the time they are designed. They don't teach anything but indoctrination,

Yep! I agree with you there. Includes Humanities by some hundreds of years.
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YEBIGA: To question the validity of studying the humanities is to question the value of being human.

The value of being a Goanna. You can use both hands.

YEBIGA: It reveals a mind entirely entranced by the prevailing valueless culture.

What studying the Humanities reveals a mind entirely entranced by the prevailing valueless culture? What an utter load of crap. It reveals a mind entranced with studying outmodes ideas, picking one that reflects your own values & defending its value the exclusion of all others.

YEBIGA: What if anything do you value?

People that can actually produce something tangible.
People that can look at & solve a problem, or offer a number of "prac table & workable" solutions.
Political Incorrectness.

YEBIGA : take some time to provide something you won't regret typing.

The Meercat Solution, "Didn't even have to think about it,"