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The humanities in Australian universities : Comments

By Chris Lewis, published 27/2/2014

The ideological preferences of many staff make it impossible to pursue truth for its own sake in Australian unis today.

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"however erroneous, he considers Marx to have made a unique and important Contribution"

A unique and important *erroneous* contribution?

Listen to what you're saying!

Spare us your appeal to absent authority and think for yourself for a change.

You are only confirmed what I have said: that Marxism has spread throughout the humanities the belief you keep displaying, that there's no such thing as truth, there's only "ideology"; and that it doesn't matter if your argument is illogical, self-contradictory and factually absurd, you are equally entitled to assert it as a basis for policy.

Marx was wrong and EVERY SINGLE LINK in his chain of reasoning was wrong. We have already established, and here are proving again, that you cannot defend a single proposition of Marx's theory.

But if I am wrong, what proposition can you defend? (See how I don't just circularly presuppose that I'm right and run away from disproofs, as you do, but show how I can be disproved and invite disproof?)

Answer the question: what proposition of Marx's, that forms a link in his chain of reasoning, is not wrong?

You don't seem to understand that if the foundational propositions are wrong, the whole theory is wrong, and it doesn't matter who or how many think otherwise.

You are trying to argue that, as economic theory, the Invisible Pink Unicorn, and Santa Claus, and magic pudding, and the law of marginal utility, all stand on an equal footing. They are all just different "narratives", different ways of "framing" a "discourse".

"I doubt you would find a single Economist today who does not hold Schumpeter with a degree of reverence."

It's not about "reverence" you fool.

Obviously since you're so confused that you think Hitler stands for personal and economic liberty, you are not in a position to talk down to me about economic ignorance.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Monday, 3 March 2014 12:31:58 PM
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JKJ apparently hasn't heard of the business cycle, of monopolisation, or the division of labour. It seems he believes alienation does not exist - and he probably doesn't even understand what it means. He probably sees class struggle as a destructive force - though it is a force that has brought about labour rights, progressive tax, the social wage and welfare state etc. But JKJ probably also believes these are all 'aberrations' from 'the perfect free market'. THAT IS the same 'perfect free market' than ends in monopolism, intense exploitation and inequality, homelessness, the working poor, a stratified health and education system that does not provide equal opportunity; and even sees human life as something that should be "subject to market force" with regards private health care...
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Monday, 3 March 2014 12:42:10 PM
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Tristan says about JKJ:

"It seems he believes alienation does not exist - and he probably doesn't even understand what it means."

Well I believe in Alienation; and here is my favourite part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKNc1nORBz0

So are they Marxists or not?
Posted by cohenite, Monday, 3 March 2014 2:23:26 PM
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Well at least you have a sense of humour! :-)
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Monday, 3 March 2014 7:01:06 PM
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Talking about Humanities. When I'm wrong my wife will fight me to the death, when I'm right she goes silent. Guess I must have been right. (-;
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 3 March 2014 7:26:08 PM
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No, when I said to students that there is no wrong or right, I was merely urging students to express their ideas in line with their interpretation of the evidence rather than parroting my or other opinions.

Would I ever believe that a great society could be achieved by socialism or a faith in govt 100%? Absolutely not.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 3 March 2014 8:24:41 PM
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