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Not a fit and proper person : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 21/2/2014

This lack of detail is justified by the government under the blanket ban of information relating to operational security, which under the circumstances is a nonsense excuse for avoiding proper scrutiny.

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its not difficult TO DEFINE FIT AND PROPER
do you have a HUMAN Response..or humane..BUT THOSE NOT Fit..and not proper[THEIR THE ONES SCREWING THINGS UP
http://rss.infowars.com/20140220_Thu_Alex.mp3
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 22 February 2014 12:37:23 PM
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Luciferase; the UN Convention on Refugees was written in 1951. It is obsolete. The world has moved on. A new agreement taking into account the fact there are now over 20 million official refugees and their circumstances should be written.

The Manus Island rioters are not refugees. They fail every test under the old Convention. They fail because they have financial resources, they have deliberately obliterated their identity, they have moved from country to country freely and we now see their home country, Iran in this instance defending their rights.

Your indignation is bereft of reason or a sense of reality.
Posted by cohenite, Saturday, 22 February 2014 12:42:30 PM
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So what about the glossy pix on wall of NORFORCE HQ a few years ago, by the way, whilst the Ruddinator was at the helm?

Electronic whorehouse & others said "6 boats intercepted off Ashmore Reef..." that day...same PC3 Orion pass with pix uncropped showed 36 boats of foreign origins...SIEVS/fishing boats, and such in frame.

We have not been & are not getting the truth from any government whether under Howard/Rudd-Gizzard/Abbott.

The boats are still coming...we just don't have enough NORFORCE patrols on the ground or Customs/RAN at sea to monitor and report. Thus by way of paying Serco/G4S and foreign parties we have been exponentially losing that capacity to detect, monitor, and intercept and that is precisely why the Abbott government modus operandi is disinformation & by proxy - no information...divide and conquer ! Everyone on this weblog page has fallen to this ruse.

Be worried, very worried, all you bleeding hearts, as the least of our problems will be Islamisation, human rights abuses, etc...what is there not to understand ? Purely and plainly it will be foot and mouth and rabies coming ashore with the undetected landfall SIEV's.
But yes your lecturers and others at your chosen educational establishment, the great unwashed masses in the cities where the majority of votes will count next election will applaud you for your caring and humanist concerns...well done and pat yourselves on the back !... while a whole continent succumbs to the Hell Unleashed in the form of rabid wildlife and a decimated if not obliterated primary industry.

The forthcoming diaspora from the Syrian conflict is yet to happen...stay tuned.

Best bang for your taxpayer dollars would be drones over Indonesia and Timor/Indian/Arafura/Torres Strait with follow ups by M2 and a couple of belts of .50 cal.

Yes as I posted here on OLO a few years back...now I hear the loud footsteps of the old Chiefs & PO's Mess at HMAS Tarangau echoing the words from 40 years ago..." We (Australia) need to be careful & mindful of Indonesia...& so evidently it seems, not for purely military concerns either.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Saturday, 22 February 2014 3:28:39 PM
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I would suggest to Bruce Haigh to stay out of things he obviously was failure in himself. How could anyone with his working background come out with nonsense like this. It clearly shows that our paying him is a gross waste of tax Dollars if not misappropriation.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 23 February 2014 8:15:42 AM
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Secrecy and a complete lack of any genuine empathy was all that was needed by a homophobic third Reich, to murder six million innocent Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals!
I'm not saying that is happening here or even implying it, but there is a disturbing lack of information, about a policy outcome, which most Australians seem in favor of!?
Surely, any information pertaining to the success of our current bold border protection policy and it's successful outcome, can only harm the would be people traffickers?
Even so, there remains a duty of care and common humanity, for those we incarcerate or detain, for any reason!
We are not Nazis, nor do we need to give criminal organisations, and or their servants, any reason, ability or opportunity or ammunition, to be able to imply or or impugn that that's who we are?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 23 February 2014 11:30:56 AM
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Cohenite, you are partially correct, although in your case that was probably inadvertent. The 1951 Convention was written to reflect the post world war 2 refugee situation. Although it had several good principles that were greater than the specific situation it was designed to address, circumstances do change. That is why a Protocol was written in 1967. Australia ratified that Protocol on 13 December 1973.

There is always a case to be made for re-evaluating a Convention in the light of changing circumstances. But at least one should start from the last point, in this case the 1967 Protocol, and not pretend that the 1951 /convention is the last word.
Posted by James O'Neill, Sunday, 23 February 2014 11:34:31 AM
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