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By Tanveer Ahmed, published 10/10/2005Tanveer Ahmed argues there is no crisis in mental health in Australia.
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Posted by Timkins, Thursday, 13 October 2005 5:56:52 PM
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Oh dear, the return of the prattling parrot - I thought it was too good to be true.
Just when it looked like we could have a decent discussion about a very good article, we get a Timkins Marxism/Feminism rant, that - as per usual - betrays his almost complete ignorance about those ideologies. Back to the 'loopy' slogans... However, I suppose it does illustrate something about alienation and mental health! Posted by mahatma duck, Friday, 14 October 2005 8:07:46 AM
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Mahatma Duck,
You are a rattling parrot. You do not look. You do not have a decent discussion. You rant. You are as per usual. You betray you complete ignorance. You are loopy. You do not illustrate something about alienation and mental health. You rarely substantiate anything, but you excel in calling other people various names. If you don’t like the term "Marxist/Feminist", then you can call those ideologies by whatever name you like I suppose, but those ideologies are definitely occurring, and very few people who often call themselves “feminist”, seem to oppose those ideologies, or have ever made mention of the harmful effects that definitely result. They seem to want to continue to pretend, that their ideologies are of benefit to all. Posted by Timkins, Friday, 14 October 2005 10:09:40 AM
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Timkins,
I would respectfully take issue with a few of your points: - “ant-male institutions such as Family Law” I do not think that you could reasonably say that the Court is anti-male. Perhaps the law had a greater bias when formed and needs (indeed I say does need) reform and more balance. But anti-male? When my parents split, my father was ordered to pay $90 a month to help support 4 children, when my mother was a nurse and remained alone her entire life. This is anti-male? - “Children are also being badly affected by mental illness, with numerous studies identifying family break-up and living in single parent families as being primary contributing factors” Can you point to these studies? I grew up part of an organisation that supported single parents and while there were always problem children, there were no more or less than I saw in 2-parent families. Certainly most single parent children I know are fine. - “leaving many people without forms of meditation and prayer, which appear necessary for good mental health.” Just because one does not adhere to a religion does not mean that one cannot meditate for health. In fact many choose a form of non-religious meditation to calm the mind and clear it of worry, leaving one able to think more clearly and deal with life more effectively. Religion may have it’s place for those who need more than internal support but it is no longer the fix-all it once was, as more people are educated and intelligent enough to work the world out for themselves. Finally, Timkins, I would point out that you blame both Marxism and Capitalism for the decline in social attitudes. So which is it? As they are opposite sides of the economic coin, which is it? I think it more likely that rapid changes in technology, social values and gender roles (perhaps) are the causes, rather than attributing the problems to an ‘ism’ is more likely. Posted by Reason, Friday, 14 October 2005 10:40:08 AM
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An excellent article by Miranda Devine in SMH entitled “Lazy thinkers still defend bad ideas”, is about capitalism and globalism, but discusses ideas of much wider relevance.
http://smh.com.au/news/opinion/lazy-thinkers-still-defend-bad-ideas/2005/10/12/1128796586029.html The article is full of gems, including the following: “But human history suggests we don't learn so easily from our mistakes; that bad ideas somehow morph and linger, despite overwhelming rational evidence against them. People who have spent a lifetime defending bad ideas seem to lose the capacity for logical thought. When the weight of evidence against their bad idea reaches critical mass, rather than say, "We were wrong", their tactic is to say, "Oh, that debate is over", and to adapt their language so as to appear to have rejected the bad idea, while clinging to it secretly.” Posted by Seeker, Friday, 14 October 2005 11:08:25 AM
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Meditation is a state of the mind, it should be used for gaining control of mind and body, so that you are aware of the influences that attack you from within and without. Technology and its speedy development hasn't kept pace with the effects this has upon people.
Only a few year ago, people were kept informed by their local newspapers. Now we are bombarded by every form of communication possible, it is a worldwide aspect we receive. This clutters the mind, and destabilises it, add that to the negatives of the food we eat and how they effect our biological and chemical balances, no wonder more and more people are going loopy, ( no pun intended Timkins). Psychotropic drugs, don't help, but sedate the mind and body in an attempt to cloak the confusion. There is no cure in that. If psychiatry was a successful method, then we would see better results, but it isn't. As tension grows throughout the world, mental confusion will grow as peoples illusions regarding life collapse around them. Unlike the past where communities were able to isolate themselves from the realties of negative life, now it is forced down our throats by all and sundry, every minute of the day. Is it a coincidence that religion is at the forefront of the assault on the human mind, no it is to be expected. Why, because with all illusions that are collapsing, their final acts are always to try and destroy everything before they go under. We see that with all ideologies from the past. Let's just say that the mental confusion that abounds, is just a product of the collapsing past illusions that used to control us, now they are losing this control and we are seeing the results. Because there seems to be no defined positive future for humanity at present, then things will get worse until a real sustainable future can be seen ahead. Trying to prop up the dying delusions, will only enhance the effect and cause unnecessary suffering for all those clinging to the past and present failed ideologies. Posted by The alchemist, Friday, 14 October 2005 11:50:41 AM
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You are glad
You have a fixation.
You have minimal thinking.
Your insights are related to your personal experiences with the opposite sex.
The contents of my posts are real and happening, and if you closely study the situation, it is a mixture of Marxism, Feminism and Capitalism.
Both Marxism and Feminism have wanted the elimination of marriage and the destruction of the nuclear family. This is well under way. Childless Couples now outnumber Couples with Dependant Children, but Single Person Households are expected to become the most common household type in a few years. That will leave many people alone, without much human contact or support, thereby exposing them to greater risk of mental illness.
Feminism has been highly anti-male, creating much gender alienation, and various ant-male institutions such as Family Law have indirectly created significant amounts of mental illness and distress in society.
Ironic that married women are now half as likely to have mental illness as divorced or separated women. Children are also being badly affected by mental illness, with numerous studies identifying family break-up and living in single parent families as being primary contributing factors.
Feminism has also wanted more promiscuity, (so as to sexually liberate women), but ironically also, married women normally report much better sex lives than single women, with much lower risks of STD’s and unwanted pregnancy also.
Marxism and Feminism have also been quite ant-religious, and congregation numbers in many churches have fallen over the years, leaving many people without forms of meditation and prayer, which appear necessary for good mental health.
Capitalism has contributed to the reduction in union membership, leaving many people quite isolated and without much support or security in their work place. Capitalism has also contributed to much consumerism, pollution, destruction of natural environments, long work hours, high loan repayments etc.
The whole thing is rather an unhealthy mix one would suspect, but I certainly don’t see the doctrines of Feminism as being of any real help in overcoming such problems within our society, as Marxist/Feminist doctrine has created many of them.