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Climate change is here despite denial : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 4/2/2014

Seems it never rains in Southern California. But California Dreamin' has become a California Dryin' nightmare and many are praying for the drought to end.

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Coenhite if you want anyone to take you seriously and regard you as something other than a troll you might try writing a post with no insults and silly language in it.
Posted by Candide, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 3:44:42 PM
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Cohenite, not only are you showing signs of fanaticism, you are being quite shrill about it too.

Do yourself/everyone a favour; take a Bex, lie down, whatever - just don't burst a blood vessel in your brain.
Posted by ozdoc, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 4:05:59 PM
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OLO published articles on climate change quite regularly. Equally regularly the usual suspects indulge in name calling, drag up irrelevancies, and generally froth at the mouth. Why is it one wonders they feel so threatened by what is, in world terms, a generally unremarkable view.

After all, of scientists who have actually expressed an opinion about the human role in climate change, 97% say that the currently observed nature of climate change is in fact human induced. Cohenite would probably say they are all part of a worldwide conspiracy, but I think we can safely ignore his/her views on this as on much else.

Between November 2012 and December 2013 there were 9137 articles on climate change in peer reviewed journals. Of these, only 1 (yes, one) rejected the human causation factor. Of course one could always say (and Cohenite et al do) that all the editors of all the scientific journals are part of the same world wide conspiracy.

I am not a scientist, so I am inclined to accept this overwhelming weight of opinion in the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary. Just as I accept what the cosmologists say about our infinite universe; or the doctors about the links between smoking and a variety of diseases.

Or one can look at it from a insurance perspective. Are we so confident that we can ignore what the weight of scientific opinion tells us and risk potentially devastating consequences for our small and fragile planet? I prefer to not take that risk, for the sake of my children and grandchildren and those who may follow them.
Posted by James O'Neill, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 4:57:48 PM
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James

Listen I believe you. There are thousands of articles written supporting the claim warming is caused by human activity.

Can you cite one among all those that has actually proved the link ... with data not modelling.

Thanks
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 5:13:38 PM
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DTR durinal temperature range increasing.
Increasing polar ice caps in summer. See nasa and chris turney.
Stable or falling surface temps for the the past 17 years.

Climate change: yes. Global cooling probably.

There are yachts iced in in the NW Passage. They have been there since last northern summer. The only kayaks in the Passage would be ones sitting on top of the ice.
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 5:37:56 PM
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Cohenite. Do admire your calm persistence in presenting 'hard' evidence disputing and questioning the theory. Have you tried to argue from the point of view of the number of fairies dancing on the head of a pin? Lyn would relate to this line of argument far more readily than mere recorded evidence.

Imajulianutter. Succinct and hitting the nail on the head. I too am awaiting a post that provides the precisely methodology used in distinguishing between 'human' induced climate change and 'natural' variation. I'm afraid that the 'CO2' knob doesn't seem to work, increasing CO2 and the temperature hiatus?.

Lyn, I think you covered all bases in this one, however I did not see the one about 'big oil', big coal' and 'big tobacco' (Cohenite, how about cutting me in on a bit of that action will you, you gotta be rolling in it by now). Lyn, Lift your game there lass.
Posted by Prompete, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 6:09:47 PM
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