Steele, I did not look at it. There is plenty of proof that there is no current global warming. The temperature is not rising. As I pointed out, there is an annual lie fest among the fraud backers to assert “hottest year on record”. As I said above, The” hottest year” yet in Australia was asserted to be 2013, by David Jones of the Bureau of Meteorology. The temperature upon which he relied was taken at Moomba, South Australia, where the temperature record commenced in 1995. The temperature record kept at Bathurst since 1858 showed that 1939 was a hotter year than 2013.


Jones has previously shown his support for the AGW fraud, so this effort is no surprise.
It is reminiscent of Hansen, the highly qualified activist, and his dishonest support of AGW.

All knowledge is provisional, and if you refer me to science which is at odds with my current opinion, I will change my opinion. How did you form your opinion? You have not been able to produce any science to support it, so what is your basis for supporting the AGW fraud backers?

Dear Leo Lane,

Well could I invite you to look at it and give me your opinion.

Here is the link again.

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1997/trend

Would you see it as a valid piece of evidence that the global temperature trend is down. This is obviously a site trusted by Cohenite and he evidently feels it is an important part of the puzzle. What I am really trying to get a handle on is what type information you particularly are prepared to entertain.

This is what the author says;

“Please note:
I have no particular axe to grind in the "Global Warming Debate" one way or the other. Indeed, as a life-long Green I think a shift to a efficient and sustainable way of life is a Good Thing whether or not CO2 is a significant problem in and of itself.
My aim here is only to use what skills I have as a programmer to help others with greater domain knowledge to discover and debate what is happening. No angle, no hidden agenda.
After 30 years of messing around with (and being messed around by) computers and complex software, I would just say this:
Computers are great tools for helping you think; just never rely on them to do the thinking for you.”

All very reasonable one would have thought. So does the site, the link to troposphere temperatures, and the author measure up for you?

Why would I show you any manners.

You tried to denigrate me by comparing me to Neville Chamberlain but you used a quote that could only possibly have been attributed to Adolph Hitler.

You were witless in that endeavour and Goebells like in your twisting and turning in refusing to apologise and withdraw your slurs.

You just look more foolish trying to talk down to me, Witless.

Like Wood For Trees which steele is being tedious about other sources also show no temperature increase in 17 years such as Skeptical Science:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/trend.php

The SKS calculator is also used by Werner Brozek in his straightforward analysis, assisted by Nick Stokes here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/03/statistical-significances-how-long-is-the-pause-now-includes-september-data/

Santer who warmair linked to earlier as proof of AGW, says that 17 years is evidence of climate significance:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2011JD016263/abstract

So there you have it; the most reliable of the most reliable temperature indices, the satellites, RSS, shows no warming and in fact cooling for 17 years.

People who still believe in AGW are smug dopes.

Steele, you have not disclosed the basis of your fraud backing.

Indirectly we know it is not science, so it must be some mental aberration.

I have attempted a sensible interchange with you, but that is not possible. If you did try to contribute, thanks for your unsuccessful attempt

Here are more papers which rely primarily on observations to confirm global warming theory is correct.

http://agwobserver.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/papers-on-changes-in-olr-due-to-ghgs/

Cohenite

Thanks for the link to the temperature calculator here:-
http://www.skepticalscience.com/trend.php

The link requires one to set start and end points and select temperature data.
I choose start 1993 end 2007
Land data Best
The result was:-
Trend: 0.428 ±0.342 °C/decade (2σ)
Now being a bit of a pessimist I like to consider the worst case scenario
which is 0.75 deg C per decade or nearly 7.5 deg C over a century.
Yes I unashamedly cherry picked the data now it is your turn. I will spit the difference with for you any continuous period greater than =>15 over the last 40 years using the calculator you linked to above.