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It’s time to commemorate the Frontier Wars : Comments

By Paul Newbury, published 30/1/2014

Flannery said that in any other war, Australia's Aborigines 'would have been awarded the Victoria Cross' but the Australian War Memorial in Canberra does not even acknowledge them.

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Let the Aborigines raise funds by having raffles,cakes stalls and dinner dances like the R.S.L did in order to build their monuments.
Seriously does the author believe that the cenotaph and R.S.L hall in every Australian town was provided free of charge by the government?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 30 January 2014 9:40:42 AM
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It’s all part of the aboriginal industry and the white renegades who bullied our weak politicians into meddling with the English language and putting a capital letter on a common noun. All original inhabitants of ANY country are aborigines; they are not Aborigines. The names of their individual tribes are proper nouns, deserving of the respect of a capital letter. En masse, aborigines do not rate a capital any more than does the term ‘first inhabitants’. They are Australians.

Capitalising aborigine is a total insult to the members of the 250 or so tribes in existence. They are not all the same, and the loudmouths with a little education who make big money out of their ‘industry’ don’t speak for all of them, if any.

So while the do-gooders, self-appointed ‘leaders’ of all aborigines and ignorant politicians are stirring up anger among non-aboriginal people who object to the apartheid-like separation of aborigines from the rest of us, they are also raising the ire of, and insulting the intelligence of, many aboriginal Australians who do not want to be made to feel different like, and be treated like, museum pieces. We are supposed to be a democratic and free country where people have the opportunity to do what is best for them. Most aborigines have done what is best for them, and they work and live in cities and towns.

They do not need Left wing agitators speaking on their behalf.

The mention of Fairfax and Tim Flannery by Paul Newbury (who seems to concentrate on writing about aboriginal matters exclusively) tells us that the usual suspects are continuing to preach their paternalistic nonsense and arrogant penchant for telling other people what is right and wrong.

The ‘frontiers wars’ talk is absolute nonsense. There were clashes between aborigines and whites; but that occurred in all countries colonised and civilised by the British, French, Spanish and Portuguese; regrettable but perfectly natural when modernity meets the Stone Age. Australian aborigines would have been a lot sorrier if they had been colonised by any of the other powers mentioned above.
Posted by NeverTrustPoliticians, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:56:59 AM
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I have no view on the Frontier Wars except to point out that everyone's ancestors have certainly been dispossessed and maltreated at some point, and whether this was done in relatively recent history or the remote past doesn't have any bearing on the moral issues involved. But I must say that anyone who believes they can add credibility to an article by quoting Tim Flannery has clearly lost the plot.
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 30 January 2014 1:09:15 PM
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If one had not read this article to be aware of its nonsensical basis, its lack of any worth could be ascertained by the fact that it has the support of Tim Flannery and Henry Reynolds. To banish any doubt of its reprehenxible nature, I can add that John Pilger has previously written in support of this weird notion.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 30 January 2014 4:16:37 PM
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Great article, interesting and well researched - and I can't believe the number of nonsensical "I'm not racist but..." comments from respondents who want to venerate the White Australia version of our country's history.
Australia's institutions - such as the War Memorial - seem to want to refuse a formal history that recounts anything but the victor's side - and we will all be worse off for its omission.
Yes - early settlers from Europe killed the original inhabitants of Australia for their land - and some European settlers were killed despite never attacking the locals. Yes, many Aboriginal people fought back - some bravely defending their kin against technologies they had little hope of defeating.
Refusing to talk about it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. We are out of step with international thinking (again).
In New Zealand, for example, more than 60 memorials commemorate the dead of the New Zealand Wars. Initially these commemorated dead white soldiers and the Maori who fought alongside them against other tribes; but since the 1970s new memorials have been erected to commemorate the dead on both sides, such as that at New Plymouth (St Marys) and Wakefield St Auckland.
Time for us to move beyond 1960s sensibilities and tell our nation's true history, not the most convenient one.
Posted by FranM, Thursday, 30 January 2014 4:41:00 PM
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Flannery's record as a weather prophet has been atrocious. It seems he is blinded by his world view. This issue seems no different.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 30 January 2014 4:54:05 PM
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