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Abbott Government in crisis as the end of year approaches : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 23/12/2013

All that said: it is not as if they didn’t have options. The floating dollar could have been temporarily suspended – and maybe pegged at 75 cents US – to bolster struggling industries – also including tourism for instance.

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"Abbott drove the car industry out of town..." What a stupid comment. No mention of the fact Mitsubishi shut under Labor and Ford announced their departure under the same government. It was obvious to most car industry observers and commentators that GM-H was going to stop manufacturing. The Abbott government were told the same and then baited GM-H into finally admitting the obvious. If anything GM-H's demise can also be attributed to happening under the Labor watch but the death notice came under LNP.

The Abbott government can hardly be accused of being in 'crisis' either. A few stumbles, normal teething problems for a new government and a minister shown to be out of his depth is not a crisis. It could well be argued that a government that knifes two prime ministers in just a few years was one that truly represented a crisis...and the electorate duly responded.
Posted by minotaur, Thursday, 26 December 2013 10:43:13 AM
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Hi Minotaur,

It might be good to read the original article carefully. It says this:

“it is Abbott and Hockey who have chased the auto-industry out of town; and they must take responsibility for the falling employment and the falling revenue which follows.”

That is precisely what happened under Labor. Yes, some industries closed, others were opened and several were reconfigured.

The previous government took responsibility for the overall capacity of the economy to provide adequate employment, growth, income and wealth.

Regarding the Abbott government being in crisis, Minotaur, what are your data sources?

According to the Murdoch press, yes, all is well. The alternative media, however, will fill in the gaps and check the facts and present a different picture.

This piece, for example, lists 17 areas where the Abbott government is stricken by fairly serious internal dissent:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbotts-bitterest-foes--his-coalition-colleagues,6014

As with most alternative media you don’t have to believe the author. You can go to the sources of information embedded in the article for validation of the claims.

This site – Independent Australia – and others, such as The Global Mail, NewMatilda, the Guardian and On Line Opinion here provide heaps of helpful data suppressed by the mainstream media.

Cheers, AA
Posted by Alan Austin, Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:45:55 PM
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Alan, I never claimed it was from the article and in a post Tristan said; 'Abbott's managed to drive the car industry out of town and Qantas is set to follow.' What absolute rubbish. The claim has no basis in fact.

The site you posted a link to held no surprises for anyone who follows politics. All it did was try to beat up a crisis that doesn't exist though. I'm not saying there are not issues but the 'crisis' is in the imagination of the Abbott haters.

As I correctly stated, the electorate recognised a government in crisis and duly removed it from office. Should the Abbott government lurch into a crisis then the electorate will determine its fate.
Posted by minotaur, Thursday, 26 December 2013 1:20:01 PM
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Alan mate your efforts last year to get Gillard re-elected and your sudden new found love for Rudd just before the election still have me in stitches.
Now this christmas your gift is more mirth.

First you quote yourself as an authority on Tony Abbott and the new coalition government... when in fact all you've done is cut and paste other lefties negative stories then you suggest the left wing on line media outlets New Matilda and that Greenies mouthpiece are where we can source 'correct' info on the Coalition Government.

Mate what is happening to your beloved ABC?

Mate I see you included olo in your list.

Good for you. There really is balance in here and the left wing diatribes are exposed for what they are.

There you go Alan and you have a merry holiday season. Won't you.
Posted by imajulianutter, Thursday, 26 December 2013 1:22:09 PM
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Hi again Minotaur,

Thanks for replying. No, it is not certain that Qantas will definitely abandon operations in Australia. But the directors are making much the same appeals to the government as GMH has done. So there would appear some basis in fact. No?

Regarding ‘a crisis that doesn't exist’:

Are you sure, Minotaur?

That Independent Australia article has links to 17 areas of internal dissent. Why weren’t at least some of these policy issues resolved in opposition?

An earlier article at the same site contains links to 20 areas of serious conflict in international affairs – that’s one every five days. Another points to the 20 variables by which economic management can be measured. On how many is there any sign of improvement? None?

Another piece lists the 13 lies and broken promises identified in the first ten weeks of the Abbott government.

What we can then do is compare these with the performance of the previous government – which was certainly condemned despite far fewer broken promises, virtually no international crises, far fewer internal brawls over policy matters and overall economic management which lifted Australia to the best-performed economy in the world.

Correct?

Cheers, AA
Posted by Alan Austin, Thursday, 26 December 2013 1:56:41 PM
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Heavens above, some people are babies in the woods !
Does anyone really think GM decided between September and December to
cease building cars in Australia ?
Doesn't anyone else know what is going on ?
Why do you think they are closing down in Europe also ?
Could it be some almighty plan ?

SURPRISE SURPRISE !
A political party is having internal arguments and disagreements !
My goodness what next, petrol rationing tomorrow ?
Perhaps a politician will be found in bed with his wife !
I mean, really, the country is really going to the dogs !
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 26 December 2013 2:56:40 PM
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