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It's MYEFO, Not YourEFO : Comments

By Andrew Leigh, published 18/12/2013

Alas, Mr Hockey's early days in the job suggest a treasurer who struggles to win the key economic arguments.

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Interesting, however economic arguments are not really relevant, like the 'boat people crisis" it's the politics, not the reality.

In order to save us all from impending economic catastrophe the Abbott government wil
institute massive spending cuts to welfare education the environment and, of course the ABC. Tax breaks for the upper 20% income earners will also be necessary.
Posted by mac, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 8:15:18 AM
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You were in government until recently Andrew Leigh. This mess is mostly your creation. Lecturing Hockey now is phenomenal hypocrisy.
Posted by DavidL, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 8:27:31 AM
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IT WASN'T ME, IT WASN'T US!

It wasn't me, it wasn't us,

The economy has fallen under a bus.

We have to cut and seriously prune,

I know I sound like a prophet of doom.

But after Joe bleeds every LABOR supporter

And that includes Bill Shorten's daughter

The economy will grow in leaps and bounds,

And the rich will make billions of pounds.

In some places the meek inherit the earth,

But not in OZ, I'm a man of inestimable worth,

My friends live in Vaucluse and all drink Grange,

I know the poor and vulnerable think it strange,

But people like me were born to rule.

And if you don't believe that, you're a fool!

So if Santa this Xmas to you has not been kind.

Be warned, next year will be even more a bind,

And my name some people will curse.

But Joe don't care, just give me your purse.

The Coalition's job is to look after the pigs

Just read ANIMAL FARM, pigs don't give figs, we're prigs!
Posted by David G, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 9:22:59 AM
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Surely socialist Labor must take the blame for leaving finances in such a shocking mesh; an even bigger mess than we were lead to believe prior to the election? Hockey, no favourite of mine, has just found in the “101 days since the election” the full extent of the socialists’ trashing of Australia.

Andrew Leigh is a very hard man if he cannot allow even a politician to explain to the electorate the real reason why things have to be tightened up over the next 3 years. In that time we will see what Hockey is made of. At the moment, though, Andrew’s comments are quite silly, as are the Opposition Leader’s, blaming a new government for the appalling mis-management of the worst socialist government in history.

In the meantime, though, Abbott’s hideously generous offer – with other people’s money – to stake women having children and staying away from work, must be axed along with any other economic promises we have forgotten since the election campaign.

Smaller government and saving in all areas is what is needed, thanks to the rapine of the socialists.
Posted by NeverTrustPoliticians, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 9:57:35 AM
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The author says....the charter of budget honesty.

So tell me bias one, how did labor get their figures so wrong leading up to the election, by billions in fact.

Was the charter of budget honesty wrong.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 1:34:51 PM
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Andrew that is a hell of a trick, spinning that hard & fast, without getting giddy, & falling over.

what's that you say, you are still trying to get up? Doesn't surprise me much. Keep spinning bull as hard as this lot, & it will be even harder to ever get back into government, & rightly so.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 1:45:17 PM
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Andrew’s suggestion that the Pre-election Fiscal Outlook should provide the benchmark for assessing Labor’s fiscal record overlooks the fact that the accuracy and impartiality of Treasury’s forecasts was, and is, part of the problem. Treasury consistently over-estimated revenue growth and consequently predicted surpluses that never materialised.

Today’s MYEFO shows exactly the same problem. The ballooning deficit in the out-years is almost entirely due to changes in “economic parameters”, not policy decisions. The $4.7 billion surplus predicted in for 2016-17 in the PEFO has turned into a $17.7 billion deficit. Of this turnaround, $1.2b is due to policy decisions and $20.6b is due to “parameter and other variations” – mainly economic growth being less than predicted at election time (Table 3.4 p.29).

http://www.budget.gov.au/2013-14/content/myefo/download/2013_14_MYEFO.pdf

Clearly, Labor left behind a massive structural deficit. They can partly be excused, however, on the grounds that Treasury failed to tell them about it until it was too late.
Posted by Rhian, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 2:27:05 PM
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"They can partly be excused, however, on the grounds that Treasury failed to tell them about it until it was too late."

That is disingenuous. The ALP/Green coalition needed no assistance from treasury.

The NBN was un-costed and it represents a massive fraud on the Australian public.

The Pink Batts disaster was a product of ALP incompetence and if there is any justification, Rudd, as the architect of this tragedy should be prosecuted.

Rudd is also responsible for the turn-a-round in boat-people policy and therein the vast amounts of money spent on that.

The so-called rescue package initiated by Rudd and overseen by the economic illiterate Swan to combat the GFC was a joke as is explained here:

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15130

In fact if the author of this egregious article can point to ONE program initiated by the ALP/Greens coalition which was well run and had a lasting cost/benefit to this nation I would be surprised.

ALP was a disaster for this nation, economically and in every other respect. Attempts to rewrite history like this article only rubs salt into the wound.
Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 5:42:12 PM
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Andrew, just because you reason by starting at the conclusion you want and working backwards picking facile disconnected pretexts in hopes of deceiving anyone dumb enough to believe you, it, doesn't mean everyone else does the same.

Any economic improvement under the Rudd and Gillard governments was obviously despite,not because of them. A bigger pack of incompetent bumblers never disgraced the political stage in all the history of Australia.

Anyone who thinks that the massive and criminal waste of the pink batts and BER fiascoes actually made Australia richer needs a lesson, not just in basic economics, but in logical thought.

But of course when you don't care that what you're saying is untrue, you don't care that it's not logical either.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 6:26:56 PM
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'As Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen has pointed out, Labor's six years in office saw our economy grow from the 15th largest in the world to the 12th largest. In terms of income per person, we rose from 17th to 8th. This success has been recognised by respected international institutions such as the IMF.

Through the deepest global downturn since the Great Depression, our economy continued to create jobs. And for someone with a $300,000 mortgage, Labor's lower interest rates meant a saving of over $100 a week'.

It just shows that Leigh is not intellectually honest about why Aust's position improved, and just another propagandist. Another politician who chooses to bs.

Heaven help us, he is supposed to be part of Labor's future.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Thursday, 19 December 2013 5:36:10 AM
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http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4809588.html
Koukoulas lays out some facts for those who draw comparisons between governments and debt.

I tend to agree with: "Mr Abbott has said that "prudent fiscal management is in the Coalition's DNA". Maybe that DNA is malformed and prone to twists, spin and distortions because the facts over four decades of fiscal policy in Australia prove otherwise."

The LNP bad-mouthed our economy for its political ends for six years leading to the last election and is still operating in slogan mode. We continue being scared and softened up for broken promises made and yet to come with claims we are becoming a Greece or Cyprus. Tiresome stuff from a bunch of cowboys with gravitas who don't seem to be able to get anything right so far.

Meanwhile the Reserve Bank has finally gotten serious about the exchange rate, which is one of the biggest factors that can help exporters along once their capital outlays have peaked, as is so for the miners.

Holden is a basket case because it made cars people don't want while the dollar has been extremely high. All hands now to the survival of Toyota to keep an engineering/manufacturing base from which we can grow a future.
Posted by Luciferase, Thursday, 19 December 2013 10:07:12 AM
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Chris, herebwe go again, all this jobs created.

So, what about the jobs lost?

Or don't they matter, because unless I'm mistaken, if you creat jobs to the tune of one million, then shouldn't unemployment go down?

As for low interest rates, do you honestly believe that is a result of good governing do you.

WOW!

It's frustrating to think where we could have been had the previous labor governments not wasted so much.

And to think they were left with dollars in the bank.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 19 December 2013 12:44:10 PM
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Andrew Leigh might be part of Labor future but he is very much part of labor past. His roots are in the union based machinations of the traditional labor party.

Leigh and his cohort don't want nor will allow that tradition to change.

Labor is stuck with the bs spining talking heads like Leigh and Shorten until Labor becomes totally irrelevant and the unions eventually form their own public service party and leave labor to the inner city elites.
Posted by imajulianutter, Thursday, 19 December 2013 2:36:02 PM
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