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Onus of proof and sex crimes : Comments

By Rodney Crisp, published 4/12/2013

The sacrosanct principle of presumption of innocence is an effective means of guaranteeing legal immunity to sex offenders.

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Mandela was a Methodist. He told the Parliament of the World’s Religions in 1999. “Without the church, without religious institutions, I would never have been here today.” In speaking of his 27 years in prison under apartheid, he declared: “Religion was one of the motivating factors in everything we did”.

Margaret Thatcher denounced him as a terrorist, and former US vice-president Dick Cheney voted against a Congress motion calling for his release from Robben Island prison. But as the Anglican Archbishop, Desmond Tutu observed: “To virtually everyone else, he was held in the highest possible regard, almost as a paragon of virtue and impeccable integrity – indeed, almost of sanctity. The ANC and the anti-apartheid movement were able to use his extraordinary moral stature to galvanise support for their efforts to bring about fundamental change in South Africa and as a rallying point for their call to release all political prisoners”.

Nevertheless, Mandela was not lacking in critics and political opponents. Most of the criticisms directed against him were probably true. He never wavered from his singular objective of vanquishing apartheid and reconciling the multi-cultural peoples of the South African nation. Everything he said and did contributed to the attainment of that sole objective.

He seems to have considered that the ends justified the means. He consistently denied being a communist, for example, despite evidence that he was a member of the communist party early in his career. If he was, it was obviously not because he believed in communism but more likely to gain a useful ally to help further his cause.

His victory over apartheid and rise to power were accompanied by an unprecedented reign of tolerance, forgiveness and reconciliation – in striking contrast to the far less admirable means he had employed in order to achieve his final objective.

I posted this “opinion” on the following thread. “Onthebeach” suggested I post it here for comment:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15789#273502

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 8 December 2013 8:04:06 PM
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there are two types of law
criminal..is personal/injury/damages law
the other..is civil..or statute..[civil/written/contract-law]

one dissolves disputes..by negotiation..[civil]
resolvable..by the contracted terms/conditions

the other...criminal..simply needs
proof of injury..and certainty..of abuser/event.

if you/do the crime
you do the time..

but then..the elites needed to..control..the slaves
and invented statute law..[for legal [persons]..aa 'person..is CREATED..under the act..thus subject..only to the act

but..we arnt persons..there is noo legalcopntract
[no equal/meeting of minds..the living cannot make contract..with the dead[ie the state..or others 'persons'..AS DEFINED UNDER THE ACT

by this simple trick..they have given..rights to person
by taking gods givenrights from the living

a clever lawyer can drive..through any loophole
mainly because people are dumbed down..to/be imbeciles

[imbisiles is a legal word..indication a PERSON's-status/under the law][ie meant only/for corperate 'person'[under the act]

the kids must survive pre trial..inquisition..THREE times
and the slightest difference gets off on..appeal

because the world is full of imbeciles[on-juries]
the law of jury nullification..become vital

see a jury..out ranks a judge
it has MORE POWERS..see judges only can judge..by preceedant law
but a jury..can judge the law,,[plus the crime]..thus the safe guard..of appeal..a good lawyer..plays the evidence..a great lawyer sets up the appeal

but so sadly..the great became judges
they wrote the statute..they judge the statute..but dont serve justice
Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 December 2013 10:46:44 AM
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forget..sex crimes..[thats just the big stick]..the threat..of exposure,
buys total PARTY..loyalty..why would govt need criminal kiddy fiddlers?

its not rocket science[you take peoples kids]
by sending the parents to jail..so child services..
can..obtain..an unlimited 'supply'..of kidies..to keep the govt/public service..lawyers /judges/polies..etc..sullied with their perversion/need..but stay loyal..to their masters..FOR FEAR% OF EXPOSURE*

but..also..note..the low conviction rate
plus..the minumum time served..plus a directory..liist of other perverts networking out of prisons..but no one[not even alex..is talking about this.

its how you do great evil
by taking others lesser evils..
and threatening..to expose your dirty/little kiddy/fiddling habit
or your foot fetish..or seat sniffing

they jump..to obey
lest they get public dirt

thats how real-evil..does its truly vile

but we dont know true evil

http://rss.infowars.com/20131208_Sun_Alex.mp3

alex gives us a clue..but they too got the dirt on/him
some things he wont touch..either..yet he is showing a new way

he dont have advertizers..instead promotes partnerr business[a bit too much]..but just think..its a model..that works

advertize your own product

anyhow a few days ago..alex was reading stuff from his stack
about how the different specialist police enforcement/oversightgroups are deeply attracted to/the perversion..being policed

yep the deck..is stacked
its worth just hearing his first 5 minutes stack

http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss
Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 December 2013 1:35:34 PM
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must be a kiddy shorrtage..in..usa

http://freebeacon.com/federal-prison-population-grows-27-percent-in-10-years/

of course a lot of that was cause govt contracts..[for private prisons]..AGREED..to..keep up supply..of the slave labor

[private prison corporations/stock price is at..an all time high

even Victorian prisons are full

some of the worse crimes..[3 rd generation..sterility
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/105-scientists-slam-gmo-rat-study.html

poisend waters
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/06/cdc-study-camp-lejeune_n_4398826.html

lying to congress
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/06/james-clapper-prosecution_n_4399623.html

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/chris_hedges_on_the_pathology_of_the_rich_20131206

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/another-batch-of-wall-street-villains-freed-on-technicality-20131204#ixzz2mhxu8Whh

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/12/06/national/secrets-bill-poised-for-passage/#.UqMf0yflfzO
Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 December 2013 2:21:12 PM
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Ex Tory Cabinet minister 'caught on camera at child sex party'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ex-tory-cabinet-minister-caught-2903907#.UqO2PLYJPoA.twitter

The video, along with several photographs, allegedly places the ex-MP, a household name, at a depraved orgy organised by a paedophile


I think we have the answer why the British Government was giving thousands of pounds to a notorious paedophile group!

Government 'gave money to child sex ring in 70s'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520083/Probe-claims-government-gave-money-child-sex-ring-70s.html

The head of the Home Office has ordered an investigation into shocking allegations that the Government gave tens of thousands of pounds to a notorious paedophile group.

http://www.zippittydodah.com/2013/12/the-gollum-progression-and-grinch-from.html
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 5:27:53 AM
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