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The answer to burning questions : Comments

By Roger Underwood, published 29/11/2013

There are many academics who deny that Aboriginal people ever lit anything much other than a campfire.

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this guy is amasing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H765FklZHh4&
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 1 December 2013 7:07:29 AM
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Hi JF Aus,

<<aboriginals...ate seed from some grasses>> [And certain trees such as (some) wattle (and after a lot of processing) blackbean, you might have added]
Yes, Aboriginals collected & processed seeds --but I have serious reservations that seeds ever formed a major part of their diet. The Australia bush ain't Mesopotamia.

<<There are lots of stories about aboriginals burning the bush and there are a lot of fire fighters who like to burn back. Pyromaniacs too>>
There is pretty strong evidence that the flora and fauna changed under Aboriginal occupation and a major part of that was due to frequent burning -Google what became of "Genyornis"

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Hi OUG,

You need to be careful taking the theories of some outlier anthropologists as gospel,most of them are still committed to the doctrine of the noble indigenies living in harmony with nature --garden of Eden like.
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 1 December 2013 9:20:13 AM
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qr..with respect..the papua/aborigonals..are immediate/descendant
of the ab-original..exile..descendant of man..[cain]..who was exiled cause he killed able..

you may go-with..the 7 eves/theory
or the fact..as still exampled in..new Guinea

any 'war'..is fought vicariously..and crudely
BUT ENDS WITH..THE FIRST DEATH*

ok thats not peace nic..but a lot better than what we now got

modern war..is modernized colonialism
loot reap/rape/poison and plunder

tribal law..that kept the peace..was by the 8/skin clan
loyalty was to totum..and vile persons were simply markeed
then exiled

the birth place of eve..lies in Canberra
the birth place of adam..lies just offshore of victoria

you will in time find that all..outer expansion..[pre cursing..colonization]..was by further exile..and others simply the kiddies leaving the fathers rules

men hold the law/life/light
woman hold the nurture/nature and co-creation
two faces of governing..via mens circles and womans circles
so all-speak..freely..and in tome..find working consensus..[or exile]
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 1 December 2013 9:46:38 AM
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Hasbeen,

"Unless this is done, there is never enough grass to carry a fire, hot enough, to burn out the seedling trees. So many properties can be seen with the ever thickening tree cover that ultimately turns them to useless thickets, even kangaroo avoid."

You sound like one who has also done his share of sucker bashing and seedling digging!
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 1 December 2013 10:07:41 AM
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Hi SPQR,

While mustering in the outback you get a lot of time to look at the ground. I have seen many claypans with many small heaps of coke-like cooking stones in fireplace formation.
Immediately close by there were often stone dishes, obvious dishes worn thin in the center, with a smaller hand grinding stone in the dish or alongside, still just sitting there.

Wild grass seed was abundant when I was there late 50's, early 60's, so I think grass seed had to be a staple food for aborigines surviving in that country.
There were stone message sticks as well.

It depends where tribes were generally located. Near the coast there are heaps of clams shell pieces forming middens, as you likely know.

To my understanding there were never many aborigines in what is now Australia so I don't see how just a few could change very much at all.
Posted by JF Aus, Sunday, 1 December 2013 11:24:03 AM
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Accountability in Government… in the Words of JFK

So what happened to accountability in government? Surely questions related to the lawful validity of Government are not simply vexatious? Rather, isn’t a “Government” official who declines scrutiny into the lawful validity of their office claiming to be above the law?

In 1961 US President John F Kennedy made a speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association that everyone in Government – and those who believe Government do not have to answer to the people - should listen to.

He stated: “Government at all levels must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information, outside the narrowest limits of national security…. We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors, and we expect you to point them out when we miss them” said Kennedy. Those are powerful words.

So if this is the case, does real government simply shut up when its validity is challenged? Or does it attempt to address the concerns of those it is supposed to serve, especially as public pressure to do so continues to mount?

And if they don’t serve us…. who ARE they serving?? What would happen if the “Government” started to act as the Executor of a trust – dictating rules, codes and statutes to you?

What happens if “Government” started demanding that benefits be returned to them..?

How could this happen..?
http://truth-now.net/corporations-masquerading-as-government-part-ii-which-government-can-we-trust/
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 December 2013 9:12:40 AM
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