Any crimes committed by "bikies" can already be investigated and prosecuted.

There's no need to criminalise simply "being a bikie" or associating with them, or give increased sentences for the same crimes as non-bikies.

"an apologist for paedophiles"?

I didn't know bikies were in that arena.

First, they came for the "racists" and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a "racist".
Then they came for the "bikies"...

Shockadelic one of the leading bikie thugs has been charged with raping a 14 year old girl. So what is your definition of a pedophile?
You miss the main point that these are gangsters. A couple of smart ones get stupid ones to commit the crimes and take the rap. At a recent gangland funeral they grabbed a reporter and took his driving licence off him so knowing his family home.
What do you want FREE legal representation provided by the reptiles in the legal industry and paid for by us?
These laws were enacted was in the US 30 years ago and in fact 100 years ago in Australia with the consorting laws. Of course if lawyers cannot make a quid out of our misery it is a poor do!

There were a lot of people in the USA and Europe who once thought like you do Shockie, and thought that organised international criminals could be dealt with by existing laws. The result has been that these criminal gangs are now endemic in every western country,(even Russia), they control the drug distribution in every country, and there have been literally thousands of deaths attributed to these very violent gangs.

Hundreds have been murdered in the USA. Hundreds more in Canada. Even countries like Sweden, once famous for its low rates of criminal behaviour, are suffering from bikie gang related crime. What you are not intelligent enough to realise is that these people are not the Marlon Brando counter culture heroes of the alternative lifestyle. they are dangerous criminals who discovered something new. The very social structure of bikie gangs made them absolutely ideal for creating organised crime "firms".

What we now have in Sydney are ethnic gangs who do not even ride motorbikes who are organising along biker club lines and challenging the bikers for control of the drug trades in their particular crime filled ethnic ghettoes.

The new laws are simply a repeat of NSW's once very successful 'Consorting Laws" which were once hailed as enlightened by overseas police forces and which were considered internationally as the most effective organised crime laws ever introduced by an intelligent society.

For heaven's sake. If violent criminals can walk around advertising the fact that they are violent criminals then there is something obviously wrong with our laws. We in Sydney even have violent Middle Eastern gangs driving around with MEOC (Middle Eastern Organised Crime) number plates proudly informing everybody that they are violent criminals. On the principle that if you do nothing a bout a problem it will only get worse, then if our politicians and police do not act now, we will probably see people walking around with "MAFIA", LA COSA NOSTRA, UNION CORSE, 5T, ASSYRIAN KINGS, TALIBAN and AL QAIDA on their backs.

JBowyer "one of the leading bikie thugs has been charged with raping a 14 year old girl."

And can be prosecuted under existing laws.
Was this a "statutory" rape (i.e. not rape at all)?
Because we all know 14-year-olds have no interest in sex.

"So what is your definition of a pedophile?"

The premier said "paedophiles", plural.
Implying organised exploitation, not singular instances.

"At a recent gangland funeral..."

And why was a reporter there?

"What do you want FREE legal representation"

The right to legal representation and the presumption of innocence are supposed to apply to everyone.
Considering the number of bikies per capita, legal "reptiles" couldn't make much money out of them.

Lego "these criminal gangs are now endemic"

Because the authorities banned "fun drug" use, a victimless "crime".
You can only form criminal networks if something's illegal in the first place.

"thousands of deaths"

Mostly other gangsters, who knew the life they were getting into.
And murder is already a crime. Prosecute them.

"not the Marlon Brando counter culture heroes"

The problem with laws like this is that many law-abiding people will be harassed by the police, simply for "looking like a bikie", riding a motorcycle or even just delivering pizza or fixing their broken window (association).

"What we now have in Sydney are ethnic gangs"

And we wouldn't have "ethnic ghettoes/gangs" if Australians hadn't passively and pathetically allowed the ridiculous immigration policy of recent decades.
If we stopped further immigration from troublesome peoples, you'd "remove the firewood from under the pot", limiting further recruits and contacts.

"If violent criminals can walk around advertising the fact that they are violent criminals"

And what of Muslims in burqas or punks with torn clothes?
Do they say "responsible citizen" or something more hostile?
But the clothes themselves cannot harm anyone.

Where do we draw the line, legislating how people look?
Satanic crosses? Pierced noses? "Vulgar" tattoos?

I don't care what people wear.
I don't care if they buy or sell drugs.

I only care if they commit serious crimes with real victims.
And they can already be prosecuted for those.

The authors oppose the VLAD laws... the IPA also oppose the VLAD laws... and yet the authors still manage to attack the IPA as defending the liberty of the wolves.

The blind and irrational hatred of the IPA is starting to become amusing. Or perhaps this is intentional satire?