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By Joshua Taylor, published 6/11/2013

Three reasons why the gay rights movement should oppose states legislating for same-sex marriage.

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The third reason is quite wrong. Marriage is not a right at all. The same sex marriage lobby would be far better served asking for acceptance on the basis that people should be nice, rather than demanding acceptance on the basis of some legalistic notion abstracted from a UN treaty.
Posted by Boffin Chris, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 1:11:33 PM
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Better "solutions":

1. Federal plebiscite.
2. Repeal all marriage laws (no state regulation/registration).
3. Abolish the state governments.

Of course, the activists won't campaign for those.
A plebiscite might fail, and "the fight" will stop dead.

2 and 3 are too difficult and long term ("Progressive" activists can't stand long term. When do they want it? Now!).

Better to "take small bites", one state at a time.

"Gay marriage must happen and will happen".

Nothing "must" or "will" happen.
Laws, regulations and all social/political phenomena are *choices* we make.

I'm so sick of hearing people voice their personal *opinion/preference* as if it's written on stones from Mount Sinai.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 7 November 2013 3:57:30 AM
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Wouldn't it be a lot more simple if government got out of marriage altogether, and we each defined it for ourselves, it's 2013. The concept of a group of pols defining our most scared beliefs is medieval.
Posted by progressive pat, Thursday, 7 November 2013 8:39:14 AM
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...Well Ludwig...I only speak truth as I see it. But this will be a reality of Gay Marriage, most people don't consider:

...The husband of your daughter and Father of her children, sues for divorce to facilitate a marriage to his new boy friend.

...You want that ignominy for your daughters, you go for it!

The "Gay Manifesto's" are very enlightening: Here is a link to the 1987 version, (But only if you can overcome your prejudice towards heterosexuals that you display by supporting the nonsense of gay marriage).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65RGfRlSoH8
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 7 November 2013 9:20:26 PM
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Well Dan, with reference to your link - I got half way through that load of drivel and turned it off! What a load of bizarre twaddle!

Look, it really is simple. Homosexuality has always been with us. It is inherently harmless. It is innate in many of us. And it is a choice in some of us… and there is nothing wrong with that.

Our society has come to accept gays as a legitimate part of society and homophobia as deplorable. It just automatically follows that gay marriage should be formally accepted and enshrined in law.

It ain’t difficult territory.
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 7 November 2013 9:45:23 PM
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Ludwig, "It just automatically follows that gay marriage should be formally accepted and enshrined in law"

No it doesn't, any more than it "automatically follows" that there should be multiple partner marriages or minors being married.

Few care how may partners anyone has. However the Marriage Act 1961 applies in the case of marriage.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 7 November 2013 11:20:27 PM
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