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Valuing animals more than people : Comments
By David Leyonhjelm, published 5/11/2013Animal welfare is important, but not something we should seek to impose on our customers while we show such little interest in human welfare.
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Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 11:52:24 AM
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Ha Ha David, runner's got your back.
JKJ its part of their export licence that they ensure the animals are treated a certain way. Posted by Cobber the hound, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 12:34:53 PM
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May as well have my two-bobs-worth contribution to this topic - at least on the topic of the feeling-sensitivity of the non-human inhabitants of this mostly non-human world
Please check out: http://sacredcamelgardens.com/wordpress/wisdom/observe-non-humans-and-learn http://animalliberty.com Posted by Daffy Duck, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 1:23:01 PM
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Hay Rhrosty, you say "Now there's something we used to build. And done on a large enough scale with exports, something we could do again! If we just smart enough to cut out all the profit demanding middle men, and sell these items direct to the end user or household. Even if that also meant, we needed to provide a finance plan, or loan various entities, enough money to buy our products! (Kelvinator anyone, and would you like a gas or solar powered genie to go with that?)"
Mate, are you going to build the powerhouses & & the network to supply that power to run those fridges, or do you think just having the fridges will do? Lots of people can come up simple solution that can not work, when they don't know the details of the destination they are talking about. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 1:37:56 PM
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Hassbeen that's what we should be doing, our aid should go to biulding ppower stations so fridge works so they can buy our meat. We will get more money for our product in the long run and create jobs here.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 2:42:48 PM
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David
This is not one of your better articles. The animals exported from Australia are, in many people’s minds, Australia’s responsibility in a way that other countries’ treatment of their women or minorities, however reprehensible, is not. Are you seriously proposing that we should use our exports as a lever to coerce or cajole other countries into changing their domestic laws and policies? As a libertarian, I doubt you are. Instead you’re taking a roundabout path to attack what you perceive is imbalance in the ABC’s reporting. But the fact the ABC reports these issues does not in itself prove your point – you must also address supposed under-reporting of issues you deem more important, which you assert but provide no evidence for. Again, this is a rather peculiar position for a libertarian. Who precisely is qualified to determine an “appropriate” balance of reporting in a particular media outlet, even “our” ABC? I agree the ABC can be irritatingly sanctimonious on this issue, and there are more important problems in the world. This seems to me a rather odd way to make those points, though. Posted by Rhian, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 2:49:24 PM
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Candide
Who's "we"? You're not exporting cattle are you?
Surely you're not using that term to refer to people who disagree with you and people who would be physically violated by the policies you advocate?
Why shouldn't you have to pay the costs that you allege are necessary?
Why don't you set up halal slaughter houses in Australia, and send the meat to the people who want it, at no extra cost?
What's your answer? Why shouldn't you be responsible for the values and costs you are trying to force onto other people?
This is not about animal rights. It's about the greed and selfishness of the power-hungry moron class, whose pretensions to care for animals are just as false as their despising their fellow-humans is blatant.