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Robert Stone and Pandora's Promise : Comments

By Noel Wauchope, published 11/10/2013

I found myself disliking the film, for its sins of omission, and manipulative way of discrediting anti nuclear people.

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Allen Sugar,

>"The last comment is quiet amusing, specially the link about the safeness of nuclear power-who decides whats the safest way? Which are the measurements and what is counted in this calculation?"

Your comment reveals you know near nothing about the subject. Furthermore, you didn't even bother to look at any of the cited studies. Try a bit harder, or remain one of the "well-meaning, but ignorant and uninformed people who are denying science".

You could start with ExternE: http://www.externe.info/externe_d7/

The most common way to compare safety of electricity generation systems is fatalities pert TWh of electricity supplied. This is on a life cycle analysis basis (i.e. for all components of the system throughout its life). Also used and incorporated are health effects (mortality and morbidity), work days lost, and categorised into immediate and delayed fatalities or health effects, for workers and for members of the public.
Posted by Peter Lang, Friday, 11 October 2013 1:00:19 PM
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Thorium LFTRs have many claims - no testing in an industrial setting - all is decades in the future.

In the same sense cold fusion has equal merit and extravagant expectations - a no brainer indeed.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 11 October 2013 1:22:40 PM
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In reply to Peter Lang
The World Health Organisation’s comprehensive report (February 2013) concluded that an increased rate of breast cancer is to be expected in future years amongst women who were children when exposed to low level Fukushima radiation. It also predicted increased leukaemia amongst Fukushima clean-up workers.
Posted by Noel.Wauchope, Friday, 11 October 2013 7:11:08 PM
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Noel.Wauchope,

You are being cunningly selective and non quantitative. The real story is that the expected fatalities from Fukushima are negligible to none. That is both short term and long term.

Now, put that in perspective of the amount of electricity generated and compare it with any other electricity generation technology. Or, better still, open your mind and start being prepared to accept the facts. Nuclear is the safest way to generate electricity. We've known that for at least 40 years. What is preventing you from understanding it?
http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/06/deaths-by-energy-source-in-forbes.html
Posted by Peter Lang, Friday, 11 October 2013 7:44:41 PM
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Noel, the salient fact is that even if your representation of the WHO report is true (which I don't necessarily accept), any increase in breast cancers or leukaemias from Fukushima radiation will be indistinguishable above the normal background rates. Certainly far below the health effects of living in unreasoning fear of minuscule radiation levels like those poor Japanese kids cooped up indoors. Unfortunately you seem to have missed one of the key points of Pandora's Promise, that putting risks in proper perspective is critical.
Posted by Mark Duffett, Friday, 11 October 2013 9:08:50 PM
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