you..yu..are important..in.this
WE..NEED you to..ask..us..to explain

we needed.more of this

..<<today..when I do..understand..them*

<<..I..only agree..with some..yet it..doesn't matter,..disagreeing with..certain claims..is not..*an obstacle..to inspiration>>

bravo..you got it..yu

..<<and..the specific..narrative..is secondary>>..absolutely

..<..to the general sense..that good will triumph**..>>

<..over evil,>>..

no..that evil..repent..their lust of it
god..so..loves..a repentant..heart

..<<..that the weak..will triumph..over[with]..the strong
and..the glory..of the Lord..shall be..revealed
and..all flesh..shall..see it..*together>>>

and none..shall be..excluded..*

<<..for..the mouth..of the..Lord..has..spoken/it.
Amen!>>>>

yes..indeed
AHHHHH..men

hi..peter..it turns out..we didnt..need you
but now..call..on..you..
to tell peter

consolidate..christs..broken/church
and..you..the watchman..what do..you..while your master..was away?

?..'The..consolation/of\art''

the/art..of what..my..dear brother..

our....fathers children..suffer greatly..needlessly..
lies/wars..runours..of ruinous of wars..fears of death

[when we all got..life eternal?]

get real..peter..
one cannot serve two masters&
what art..arte thou?..arty farty..or hearty party?

dont be confused peter..
get with..the program..the harvest is ready..the workers asleep

peter..as youdid ask..on your other thread..
put forward..didst our father..use confusing language

why yes..[so..we all..
could reveal..the full story]..together
for as the christ..himself revealed..only a few hours ago

gods son..is one
so..to..our father..is one..[everyone is one]
but here at your thread..was..the story..of us all..begun

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15341
god did use..a special..language

first..it refuted..the science
confounded..the atheists..

into silence
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0
even saved the beast
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6065&page=0

then finished off..at..lamb-island succession..thread
please inform peter..without delay...

continued from
lamb/isl/succession-threat
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0

ok..there was .some hard losses
like atheist...or theist..

*pulled down..the full record
http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15124#15124

and the wikiseed detail[yet again]

but some remain..
in..google cache'

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0U40Tb_c5NsJ:http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D15046%26sid%3Df742d9b4b83b222e3d18407329dffe0d%2Bjohan9+the+death+insight+swedenburg+acim&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hl=en&as_q=&nfpr=&spell=1&ct=clnk

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The faulty/use of creation has made.this necessary as a corrective device...“And God so loved the world..that He gave his only begotten Son.so that whosoever..believeth..on Him shall/not perish*

but..have Eternal Life”
needs only one slight correction..to be
entirely meaningful in this context...It should read

“And God so loved the world that
he gave it*..TO His..only begotten Son.”

It should be..noted that God
HAS begotten..only..*ONE Son.

you could..agree with that?
a simple yes..or know..will..suffice

continues

thats why we need peter..
to..do do some..saint making..so we get the full revelation

chists divided house..has many saintly teachers
many messengers were sent..to many peoples
each landmass..has its comforter

jesus..number 1 son..what ya think
do not deny..me again..peter

well

what ya think?
http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

in//jesus..own words

Know Your..Magnetic Field

It is..worth repeating..that ultimately..
there is no compromise possible between..everything and nothing...

The purpose of time is essentially
a device by which all..compromise in this respect can be abolished.

It seems to be abolished by degrees precisely..because time itself involves a concept of intervals which does not really exist.

as for..the rest..of it..
here is the rest..of the final..[so-far]..
maybe..final..point..?

if its not..If you believe...
that all of..the Souls..that God created..ARE His Son,..and

if you also..believe..that..you..
and..his Sunship..*is One,..*then every Soul..
*MUST be..a Sun/of the light..a child..of God[love/under grace/mercy..etc

,..or..an..integral part*..
of the full story..

of his Sonship...as revealed..by the christ himself

we are enjoined..living-MORTAL-HEIRS..
of all..of our immortal/eternal fathers estates

CUSTODIAN-ship*
ward-ship

that ye..do to..the least..we do..to the most.

You do not..find..the concept..that the whole..
is greater than its parts..too..difficult..to understand.>?

You should..therefore not have..too great difficulty..with this.

The/Son-ship in its Oneness..
DOES transcend..the sum of its parts...However,
it loses this special-state..as long as..*any of its parts are missing.

This is why..the conflict cannot..ultimately be
resolved..UNTIL..the sum/all..of the individual parts..
of the Sonship have returned...*Only then,..in the/true sense,
[spirit-of/the word.. can..the meaning of..wholeness..be understood.

[atonement[at_one_meant]

The concept of..minus numbers
has always been..regarded..as a mathematical..rather/than an actual expedient...(This is a major limitation..on mathematics..as presently
understood.).

Any statement which..implies degrees..of difference
*in negation..is essentially..meaningless...
[where..is your..debt..paid-in-full?]

What..can replace..this negative
approach..*is a recognition..of the fact that..

as..long..as one part..(which is the same as...a million or ten or eight millions..of thousand parts)..of the..Sonship is missing,..

*!*>..it is..NOT complete./*!*\

In the..Divine psyche,..the Father.and the Holy Spirit
are not incomplete at all. The..Sonship has..*the unique faculty..of believing in error,..or incompleteness,

\*!*/..if he so selects...\*!*/

http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

read..it..
he will know..
look at each word..as if..a whole sentence..in mimd pictures

sentience..the..christ..is listening..

now what?

page/65

well what you..think
we even..redefined death

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15557&page=0

tell..peter..this xmass better be..re jesus NOT..dying
but not being dead..indeed lives live time..speaking from the heart

we also busted open some more seals
like the money changers
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6064&page=0

anyhow..peter its been fun..over to you
or are..you..more interested..in.."The consolation of art"

not bringing the sheep back home to the sheppard

sleeper/awake=u..matthew7;1-26..[take/it..to..heaRT][MATT..23;2-25]
http://www.examiner.com/article/pope-francis-met-with-bling-bishop-and-preached-against-greed-homily

its sad..the nest feathering
JAMES5;1-20.2;4-20.3;[ALL]4;4-17.
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=pope+francis&

Bishop Tebartz-van Elst was summoned
to the Vatican..yesterday..to discuss..the $42..million renovation..of his..official..residence,

jesus..deserves..so much better..
is..this..your best?

dont see how killing..any beast,,[unless for to eat]..
is worth this..libel/label...of a beastly killer

[remember..to collude or condone..ANY..murder..is the same guilt..morally..as well as..a under mens law]

the law..of thou.,.shalt not MURDER*
[the law has no*..*sub-clause..get it?]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6065&page=0
no sub being..all life IS SACRED
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0

not for the life..its being..but by the creator,who
is,sustaining..it too..its living

[and by..the vile..life..that..is living..
WHICH..he yet sustains..them too..their living
[in..the best body..they can..wish for..[some.of us..are just less imaginative..others reach..for the stars..[chose..becoming..even/suns..of..the sun]

but..the law..begins/ends..with
dont..murder..any living-one

[bu..no-one..is
without..this sin..of murder
[even if..by ignorance..they..murder 2000..living/soy-seeds..
in..multiple/alkaline-baths..,,just-to..make/fake-milk..for..a lattee'

murder..is yet..murder

thats/why..even..vego's..should..pray4..their-prey..
pray..over..their food..for that..which was murded..just
so..you could..live/off..ya soy/corpses..life-blood..[the..very life juice..[vampireisms..come/to..mind]

we..are..*all=energy..some..in/thinking-mind/form's
others..as..auto-reactive/beasts..others..sleeping..as..if/plant

[the/sleepers..really believed..life..death..*then nothing
its..a way..we use to..help/make..them awake..[i guess..by baking them..[murded-seeds]..in an..oven..helps them..to spiritually awake..hopefully..into a..higher/life-form..

if/not..the energy..exchange systems..move..your life..energy..ever on..further on..[de-evolution]

let/me..relate..the..gold-fish/toad..parable
for..your/edification..[cause education..is resisted]

edited
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6065&page=0

anyhow..one day the..fish..were gone..
and all..i..had left..was string..upon string..of cane-toad/eggs
seems..a hungry..cane-toad..somehow..*found..the energy..[from/eating the..saved-fish..to create..yet more..life-forms..[homes..for spirit]

5/fish..became..over..a thousand..cane toads
but in many stages..some matured really fast..and.moved-on
the others stayed and stayed..grew/fat..but..left somehow.very quickly..once..i got..bored..with/the..lesson..it seems..spirit..is needing..the..morphiousus/form..more than..the metamorphose/the..5 fish

suggestion..is take..our brothers..into protective custody
use..the/land..to feed...*all..of us.

you/greenies..r..being conned..big-time
by.;that/.lot.that uses..beastly GAMES..to/keep..us
from-what..men,..must..in-time..become..

the/caretaker[brothers-keeper]...you
take care..of others..we..take care..of you..2

[ps..watch-out..for large..hatchings..
you..know..what/that..means]

BUT..we..get/better..than we earned
anyhow..a pond..need's/care
so..i..put in..more-fish..[or else..the/only bodies available..to..evolving-spirits..would be mosque'itos..[the/blood sukking-type]..

not..the educative..of jesus/message..kind
at..least/mahamoud..[may peace..be upon..all..of/gods..many messengers]

anyhow..the mosque-kind..of ..kind-mind..
at..least got..the/law..pure..[of..no imagery..
no..eating/flesh..drinking/blood..
as..true-mosque-eato$..do

anyhow..it..needs be..spelled out
dis-spelled..the myth..that.life energy..can expire

ENERGY....CANNOT BE..CREATED>>NOR..DESTROYED
there..can..only/be..endless
seemingly..new beginnings..just as..there is..ENDLESS rebirth

that..was/not..a new parrable
but an..important one..comes to..mind

men..kill..elders..
[attack those..of wisdom..of age]
the..older..the tree..the older..the sleepy spirit..embodied..in-it

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0

my latest rave
please take that forgotten authority-=power..back to peter
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15603&page=0

some other back ground
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6064&page=0

first lets get the official-business out of the way
that the comforter's comforter come..and justice be guided..to be done..by someone

the wolf has adopted the cloak..of the sheep
how long..must they be left ignorant/asleep?

oh comforter's..
why..comfort thou..not my..flok?
that ye did for the least..thou didst for the most
[but lets be seen..as doing..it..just for the least..

its what the most
mostly wanted.

teach..it in school..teach..the golden-rule
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15602&page=0
as they did reap..we did will when we went..to sow
let ye who..reaped the ill harvest..pay..the piper..to yield

hi/peter..today..my-guides are declaring war on..mistranslation
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6073&page=0

Line-by-line..RE_editing.;.[of ALL*..holy texts]

There..is,..as mentioned,..copious..line-by-line editing.
The sheer volume..of it takes..one aback,..as we are..accustomed to thinking/of the words..of the Course..as straight from Jesus.

The following/example..will give you a sense/of
the line-by-line editing..I suggest you read it..in two ways.

First,..read down..each column.
http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/

Then,..read across-reading..each line
as it evolves..through..the different versions.

Urtext#...Hugh Lynn Cayce/...Standard Course*

You..now share..my inability#..As you share..
*my inability/..As you share..my unwillingness

to..tolerate..the lack/of love#../..to tolerate lack of love
*to..accept error

in yourself..and..in.everyone else,#..
/in..yourself and..others,...*in..yourself...and others,

and must/join#/you must/join..*you..must/join

the/Great-Crusade..to correct it.#
the/Great/Crusade.to correct it.
*the/great*crusade..to correct it;

The..slogan/for this..Crusade..is."Listen,..Learn,.and Do."#
/The.slogan/for..the Crusade..is.."Listen,.learn,..and do;"—
*..This..means Listen..to My-Voice..Listen..to my-voice,..listen..to my voice,

#..Learn to..*undo..the error,#,../learn..to undo..error//*learn..to undo error..

#and..do something..to..correct it./and..do.something..to.correct it..29..*and..act..to correct it..(T-1.III.1:6)

#The..first..two..are not enough...
/The..real members..of my party...are active workers..28

This brief example..contains..almost all..of
the important..characteristics..of..the line-by-line..editing:

Lots..of editing...The..sheer/volume..of changes..is striking.
Out of..68 words,.45..*words have..been changed..(removed,/replaced, added,/or...de-emphasized).

Faithful...?The editors..have clearly..tried very hard..to be faithful.to the meaning of the original...It is..difficult..to detect a.significant/change..in meaning.

Slight/alterations..in meaning?..While there..are..no significant changes..in the..superficial-meaning*..of our passage,..there are some..slight..alterations...[of emphasis]

In..the standard/version,..you join..the great crusade..
because..you have..become unwilling..to accept/error..(or..lack..of love/or..over/fearing..anything]).

In..the original/version,..however,..both..your joining..the Great Crusade..and*..your unwillingness..to accept..lack of love..come from the fact..that/you have.."been restored..to..your original state"..where..*all fear..is illusion..

(from..the line..preceding..our/passage)...

That's..a very minor..alteration...Slightly more significant..is the downplaying of behavior..in the editing..of..the final lines...This is a consistent/pattern..in the editing..which I will discuss below.

Less lively,..more tame.[erantly/safe]

After editing,..the material..is generally..less lively and spirited. In the original,..you become unable..to tolerate..the..lack of..fearless-love...In the standard version,..however,..you become merely unwilling*..to accept error.

There is..an insistent,..emphatic note..in the original
that is..consistently softened..by the editing...This makes the Course sound..more remote,..more tame.

Set..next to..the original,..it feels sanitized.

Less specific...The removal.of..specifics..takes place on a line-by-line basis...You can see..that here...The Crusade no longer has a "slogan,".and there is no longer..a "party"..with "workers."

The familiar..cultural image..of a political party..on a crusade,
with busy workers..chanting their slogan,..has been taken out.

More vague.. Although..the meaning.of our passage h..as not been changed,..it is somewhat less apparent...For instance,..we now may wonder what.."act to correct"..error means.

Does this mean..physical action?
The original,..however.. leaves no doubt:

"do something..to correct it….
http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/

im..against..post limits..[2peter2]
but..have found..the easy/solution[open..the archives..immediately]

[from..the..new/link]
http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/

Part of..the need..for the Second-Edition,..as we saw earlier,
was that..a kind of..telephone game...[pass/the mess-age]..had occurred..with the retypings of the Text.

There were four re-typings,..two of which..were not proofread
and two of which..were not adequately proofread...

This meant..that errors..(typographical/errors..and inadvertent omissions..of material),..rather..than being corrected,..simply accumulated..with each..new retyping.

Hence,..for the Second Edition,..proofreaders went..back to the beginning..to catch all the errors:.."The three books of the First Edition..of A Course in Miracles..were proofread..against the urtext that Bill..had originally typed..from Helen's notes."48

What..I have not yet mentioned..is that a similar telephone-game occurred..with the editing of the Course...A close comparison of the different versions..reveals that each version..was edited only by consulting..*the most recent version,..a fact that Ken Wapnick has confirmed.49

This means..that the second draft..was edited only by consulting the Urtext,..not the shorthand notebooks...The HLC was edited..only by consulting the second draft,..not the Urtext..or the shorthand notebooks.

WHAT..IM..GETTING AT HERE..is this has occurred..globally
but peter..has acces to_all..the drafts..ALL WE GIVEN>>TO ALL..OF US..not just..the pope[s]

The.standard Course..was edited..only by consulting the HLC,..not the second draft,.the Urtext,..or..the shorthand notebooks...

If you look at..the "Great Crusade".,.passage
above,..you can see this.
http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/

Notice..how,..once..material drops out,..it stays out;
it..is not..ever..put back in.[lost]

Notice..how,..once even..the most minor changes..*are made,
they are not..allowed..be undone;..they either remain,,errant/or are changed..further.

And..what you see..in this one..passage
is true..all the way through...ALL..HOLY_TEXTS

So..there was...a kind of..academic/telephone game,..which in this case means..that imperfect editing decisions,..rather than being corrected,..simply compounded..as the chain..with/the past..grew longer...[and lost context]

Therefore,..just as..someone went back to..the beginning to catch all the typos..for the Second-Edition,.so someone*..needs to..go back to the beginning..(in this case,..to the shorthand/notebooks)..and re-examine..*all the..editing decisions.

This new edit..should receive..the care befitting..the scriptural status/the Course has..acquired for..so many thousands..of seekers,

DONE>>..BY& MANY WILLING WORKERS>>NOW*
[live..on web]..this day.

*the kind of care..you would..associate,,with..a new translation..of the Bible...[dont..start/me..on.that-one][CONTEXT*}

At..the very least,..there
should be..an authorized version..of the shorthand notebooks,..the Urtext,..and the HLC.[plus..marbaker/luther/swedeenberg.moramn..wesly..etc etc

This..would guarantee*..that we have..complete and accurate versions of..the Urtext..and HLC,[bible/koran/torah/ichin..etc etc

and..would also make..the shorthand notebooks..*publicly available...ON_LINE..all the time*..[as written]..like saved-texts..deserve to be..KNOWN*.

post-script
[i..see the..3 popes..going to..george..[xmas/morning]
..to form..the commonwealth..of spirit..elders of god council]