Hasbeen, every-time you open your mouth via the comment section you expose your outstanding stupidity and advanced mental senility.

People like you and Shadow Monster are irritants to everyone who tries to treat this forum seriously.

Perhaps you think you are funny? Think again even if it is your first time!

Just as I said. Pilger brings the nut cases & the commos straight to the top. They can't help themselves, they have to defend the indefensible.

Come on Tony. Now's the time. Rout this fifth column out of our universities, & save most of the budget deficit as you do.

Hasbeen,

Somebody, SOMEBODY, used poison gas, to kill hundreds of innocent people, women and children. Nobody on the pseudo-left seems to be questioning, nutting out, puzzling, WHO of their preferred enemies did it, if Assad didn't, and by default, are secretly, implicitly, admitting that it was their boy.

One can sympathise that they can't blame the Yanks for this one, and it does seem - even going from the implicit admission of Putin - that it is clear that the regime used these illegal and criminal means of killing innocent people.

Right. Should they be allowed to do it again ? Obama says no. For all the bluster of apologists and harlots like Pilger, that seems to be the current position - that Obama et al. know bloody well that Assad was responsible, and the CMs will fly if they try that again. 'Take as long as you like to dismantle your illegal weapons, but don't try to use them again.'

Of course, the scum Pilgers of the world, like David G., will rush to the defense of the fascists (seriously, was that a fascist salute of Assad's supporters the other night on the box ?!) if they ever use poison gas again.

As an old Leftie, I'm amazed, and appalled, at the vile alliance between the pseudo left, like David G., and Halduell, and yada yada so many other trash, and the authoritarians and fascists of this world. What the hell were we fighting for all those years ago ? Authoritarian trash like Saddam and Assad and the Ayatollahs ? For al Qa'ida rather than the Yanks (anybody but the yanks) ? For Kim Jong Un and his dynasty ?

Is this where socialism ends up ? Supporting national socialism ? As long as it's against the Yanks ? Disgusting.

Joe

While moderation and tolerance clearly flow in this forum.

Obama is in a position full of contradictions and weakness. From his speech yesterday:

- Assad the moral monster is now an equal partner in international negotiations.

- The consequences would be terrible if the US "fails to act” which now seems most likely.

- America “doesn’t do pinpricks” — especially when it does not do anything.

- actions to save further children from being gassed now rely on a stalled or inconclusive inspection process.

Many more children will die by conventional weapon means with no end to the war in sight.

Pete

Pilger wrote: "The intrinsic criminality of the atomic bombing is borne out in the US National Archives and by the subsequent decades of militarism camouflaged as democracy."

The US was at war with Japan because Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor. The US fought back and was facing a determined enemy. An invasion of Japan might have cost many more lives than were lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The use of the atomic bomb was horrible, but an invasion of Japan might have been even more horrible.

The US would not have been fighting Japan if Japan had not attacked the US. Somehow Pilger has made an aggressor the victim. Maybe in Pilger's world a triumphant Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany would have been better. Somehow I prefer that the US triumphed over Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.

davidf. Japan had been attacking China and doing some gruesome work there. The US limited Japan's trade and tried to cut off it's oil supplies. This is why Japan attacked Pearl Harbour.

We warned the US that an attack on Pearl Harbour was about to happen. The US knew all about it but needed an excuse to join WW2 because the US people did not want war. The Russians could have defeated the Nazis alone but the British needed a force to counter act the Russians.

The reason why the USA dropped the 2 Nukes on Japan was to show the Russians how much power they had because Russia was considering invading Japan.

It's all a big power game and we the people are the pawns and canon fodder.