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Costing the earth: Abbott's mean budget : Comments
By Lyn Bender, published 4/9/2013Abbott will pay whatever it takes to buy Indonesian boats, but nowhere near enough to buy the future of our world.
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I'm afraid you are right Lyn, the Carbon Tax will almost certainly go. But I predict there will be a fairly sharp fall in immigrants over the next few years, especially in the temporary category as the economy contracts. It has been high for the last eight years while we had the boom run.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 8:23:54 AM
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I have just returned to on_line_opinion to read if any entries were worth reading. Your argement is excellent, but your life experience is limited to your experiences & what these scientists & politatians say in assisting your argument.
What is needed at the present time is 'drought relief' for the farmers & graziers as well as the small shrinking towns of our inland country. They support you in times of plenty & now whatever 'Party' rules this country for the next term will have to assist our farmers. Posted by bluffitpam, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 8:26:01 AM
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< On these issues Abbott and his team, in my view, deserves the thumbs down. >
Totally with you there, Lyn! I reckon we are about to find out that Abbott’s antienvironmental antisustainability antifuture pro-rapid-growth in-bed-with-the-big-end-of-town same old same old dinosaur politics is exactly what this country DOESN’T need! I just hope to goodness that Labor sees the absolute necessity to change while in opposition, gets itself in sustainability-paradigm mode and thus sets itself up for a big win at the following election! Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 8:57:05 AM
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I believe in a fair go.
Given none of us have crystal balls, which I'm reliably informed, is a very painful condition, and makes bareback horse riding a shatteringly pain-filled experience, one can't see what Tony Abbott will do! His prognostications of a Labour budget blowout of some 400 billions, may well give him plenty of fiscal wriggle room and someone else to blame for a future budget bottom line, given the net projected future debt number, is just 184 billions, or more than 200 billions less than the coalition is currently touting? What happens if Tony has vision and a new plan to completely reform the tax act, to end all tax avoidance? The end of all avoidance, would allow some very generous tax reductions/concessions, which would work equally for all, but particularly for the least among us, with a simple and progressive raising of the threshold! He plans to keep Labor's health education funding; the higher indexed pensions and NDIS. Where's the meanness in that? There's a thirty percent bounty to be redeemed, just by rationalizing State and Federal responsibilities, and the end of time wasting, time consuming duplication. More regional autonomy in health and education; and more pro rata funding, indexed for distance from the capital, as the model, would also save mucho plenty money. Mostly clawed back from entirely unnecessary, centralist, city centric, empire building, bureaucratic administrations. And Tassie ought to be helped to get back on her own financial feet, rather than be endlessly subsidized by the tax payer. If they were allowed to complete the NBN; had a couple of decent irrigation systems and a very fast ferry service to carry their still fresh produce to the mainland, that would do it! No other subsidized help would be needed; in fact just the opposite, with them being able to eventually confer some help on other less well performing mainland states!? As an ancestor might have remarked. Tony could well say, I'm ainy canny, nae mean!? Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:07:33 PM
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Lyn time to grow up.
It's over love. Global warming is finished & in it's death throes. Hell even in Germany, where the whole thing grew into billions of wasted money, it was not even mentioned in their election debate. The European politicians just want it to go away, so as not to be embarrassed by their stupidity in falling for it. Please go back to something you perhaps understand, rather than trying to drag dead horses into the election. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 1:14:00 PM
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With 100% of the world presently having a far lower carbon tax burden and most having none at all. The world's biggest carbon tax is having a ruinous effect on business, having contributed to the closure of the smelters, it is placing a huge burden on all manufacturing when they are facing fierce competition from countries with no tax.
A carbon tax would be the most efficient method of reducing emissions if our trading partners had a carbon tax at a similar level. Until then the direct action plan is the most efficient at actually reducing emissions rather than sending them overseas. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:10:33 PM
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"Have they fought well and bravely? Have they fought fairly and truly? Who has appeared most noble.? "
I suggest you ponder well on these lines Lyn. Think about federal Labor threatening to cut funding to the states who wouldn't join in with their schemes. Think about the "iron clad" surplus promise and look at the debt we now have (and what it is costing us in interest). Think about the blatent lies and abuse of the pulic service regarding the oppositions costings Noble? What about the shaving selfie, the rudeness to females attempting to assist and suggesting the chinese were "rat*@cking" us. Have a long, hard think Lyn...... Posted by Sparkyq, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:26:19 PM
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Have a long, hard think Lyn......
Sparkyq, Good suggestion but how can you expect a 180 from someone like that ? Posted by individual, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 8:44:02 PM
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Tony Abbott (together with the assortment of kooks, misfits, incompetents, and reconstituted Howardites that constitute his shadow cabinet) will, if elected, be a total disaster for our country. His maniacal plan to purchase 'the boats' gives full indication of his total lack of the necessary vision (and indeed mental preparedness) to govern, and is only one such indication out of many. Tony Abbott is completely out of his depth and whilst I still have hope, I fear the outcome of Saturday's election will drag us all into a dark age.
Posted by GYM-FISH, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:03:47 PM
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Don't know about mean but Labor is big on "Tricky" budgets. Announce big new programs and by the way the next mob have to pay for it (Gonski, Disability, Manus Island .......). What about 10s of billions lost from the May budget to now and the further tens when the books are checked after next Saturday? Tricky, tricky, tricky being the current narcissistic, rabbles methods.
Posted by McCackie, Thursday, 5 September 2013 4:13:34 PM
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Does anyone seriously believe that prices will go down?
Do you honestly think the companies affected by the carbon tax will just give that money back? Must be the methane that keeps all those pigs in the air. Even if it were to be so, we should be dancing in the streets about 10 bucks a week? Reality check, folks. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/life-is-much-better-under-labor-after-all-says-study-20130830-2sw8l.html Posted by Grim, Friday, 6 September 2013 9:29:37 AM
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