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Binge drinking: why punitive measures alone are not enough : Comments

By Adam Szmerling, published 23/8/2013

Previous and recent attempts to address this difficult problem have often failed to appreciate the multi-layered nature of binge drinking and have instead conceptualised it in an overly simplistic manner.

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<<..This case reflects the missing components..of prior government policies..when it comes to addressing binge drinking.>>

but how many sessions ?
must have cost 1000;s of dollars to someone

even if medicare pays for it
]how is what you achieved..better than say AA*..?

<<Most people drink because
it makes them (to some degree)..feel good.>>

no..thats the lie
booze loosens our inhibitions
where we can ALLOW/excuse..lesser behaviors..[i was drunk][forgive me?]..ie its an easy excuse

this sounds true..<<..It helps them..*escape >>
that Jimmy cricket[the conscienceguide]....ie the negative voices.

<<..an unsatisfying marriage
or a critical and overbearing boss...It helps them feel free and spontaneous*..and escape the real world rules, limitations, heartaches and challenges.>>

and that..of itself isnt really that bad
BUT..when..its so easy to justify..like

<<..But it also helps people to cope with parts of their personality they don't..like but feel powerless to manage any differently.>>

thats when it needs be clarified
and fortunately..by science method..

''30 years among the dead ''
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

;the quick fix
as simple as static electricity..to free those things
feeding on our insecure thought..that attracted..the vile..
upon our thought lesser vile thoughts

[spirit..induced via worser spirit]
into destructive act..when..spirit..gets trapped

jesus could reject..bad spirit..simply
we need the science..and the doing..to do it..
it is relatively cheap..but worse..is needing doing as a matter of urgency*

http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

its only a real issue..if its damaging/hurting other

i have learned much
from my smoking addicted ghost/guide..host*
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 24 August 2013 1:10:48 PM
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The issue isn't alcohol or violence , it is about the punishment not fitting the crime.
You wan't to fight great; your defence forces need like willing souls.
Posted by carnivore, Saturday, 24 August 2013 8:05:44 PM
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Not trying to put you out of business, but in terms of this observation -- "A massive and no easy task which therapists have involves getting people to open up and talk, to take an interest in their unconscious. Many drinkers especially do not want to consider why they drink, what their unique reasons are. It's sad that our government does not encourage or fund any such self reflective, preventative methodologies..." -- there is already a free way to do this via Hello Sunday Morning, an online community in which people commit to taking a break from alcohol and blog about the experience. Has generated some brilliant blogs and has given people insights into why they drink and the ability to better control their drinking in the future.
Posted by Karina, Sunday, 25 August 2013 1:54:48 PM
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The part that amuses me about these AA meetings, is that alcoholics go off and surround themselves with more alcoholics.

Blind madness in my opinion.

I have an inkaw who is an alcoholic and I said to him, while he was sober, if you can't limit your grog, limit your money. Simply take $50 bucks with you and leave your card behind.

It's a decimate problem, but you don't cure a problem by punishing law abiding citizens, that's just plain wrong, and as one poster says, the punishment must fit the crime.

As an example, you get blind then get daunt for DD.

You usually loose your license and cop a fine, yet, if you get caught with a female mud crab, not only do you cop a fine, but you also risk loosing your boat, all your fishing/crabbing gear, and your car.

Simply bizzar!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 25 August 2013 6:05:10 PM
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We could start with not having parking areas at drinking venues.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 6:47:52 AM
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It's sad that our government does not encourage or fund any such self reflective, preventative methodologies..."
Karina,
A national service would do a lot to change this idiotic culture but the do-gooders are just so vehemently against it yet they do express dismay at the problem of the drinking culture. It's impossible to gauge what they want.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 7:30:39 AM
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