General Wesley Clark was in charge of NATO in the late 1990's.He says that the destabilisation of the Middle East was planned in the early 1990's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI

According to Wesley Clark, after 911 the US foreign policy suffered a policy coup. Soon after 911 he was told that the US Govt would attack 7 countries in 5 years and this had little top do with terrorism.

Cognitive dissonance will not save us from fascism. The reality confronts us and yet we still seek comfort in denial of these truths

I will see if it is possible to talk sense to you, Arjay. I doubt it, because so far, your opinions have been so over the top that I equate you with The Flat Earth Society or a Creationist.

To begin with, the US general that you presented on YouTube who you say reveals US perfidy, agreed with the policy of invading Afghanistan. How about that? Did you miss that part?

His beef is that the US republican government wants to take a pro active part in the Middle East by using military force to get rid of some of the more dangerous regimes in that part of the world, and he is complaining that this policy has not been ratified by the American people. That is a fair enough point. Even in Australia, most Australians want to see the boats turned back but our politicians will not do what we want them to do, because like the US government, they routinely ignore the wishes of their own electorate.

But do the advanced societies have a right in principle to interfere in the internal politics of totally dysfunctional states who are causing nothing but trouble around the world by their backwardness? Absolutely. It may not be popular with their own electorates, but in principle, it is still the right thing to do. If the British and the French had invaded Germany in 1936 and removed Hitler, it would not have been popular with the German people who loved the bastard, it would have been very unpopular with their own war weary electorates, but it would have saved Europe from a horrendous war and saved the lives of 50 million people. To me, Islam equates with Fascism.

Muslim countries not floating on a sea of oil or who do not have a bunch of Chinese running their economy are incredibly backward and poverty stricken. The reason that they are that way is because of their stupid Fascist religion, Arjay. THAT is what you should be attacking,. Not the advanced societies who have to keep cleaning up the mess it creates.

For a bit of perspective on Egypt, and Syria, I recommend:

Syria and Egypt can't be fixed by David Goldman (Spengler)

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-170613.html

A few points:

--The Emir of Qatar kept the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood regime afloat with a series of generous "loans" that Egypt could never repay.

--The Saudis refused to help so long as their bitter rivals, the Muslim Brotherhood, ruled.

--Egypt was running out of cash to pay for its food and fuel imports.

--Qatar was running out of money. Even oil-rich sheikhdoms find it difficult to keep a country of 85 million from going under.

--Egyptian army chief Abdul Fatah Saeed Hussein Khalil al-Sisi has close ties with both the Saudis and the US. Now that he effectively holds the reins of power the Saudis seem to be more forthcoming with aid and loans.

--The Egyptians are going to have to undertake a series of painful and unpopular reforms. No matter who is in charge, the best prognosis is that the situation for most Egyptians is going to get worse before it gets better.

See also:

Islam's civil war moves to Egypt

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-080713.html

>>The Finance Ministry has intensified its contacts [with Gulf states] to stand on the volume of financial aid announced," caretaker Finance Minister Fayyad Abdel Moneim told the Anadolu Agency in a phone interview Saturday. Abdel Moneim spoke of contacts with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and Kuwait for urgent aid ... Defense Minister Abdel Fatah al-Sisi phoned Saudi Kind Abdullah bin Abdel Aziz and UAE President Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nuhayyan yesterday on the latest developments in Egypt. King Abdullah was the first Arab and foreign leader to congratulate interim president Adly Mansour after his swearing-in ceremony.>>

Both linked pieces are worth reading. David Goldman (aka Spengler) is an acute observer. Unlike most pundits he backs up his opinions with hard facts.

I also refer you to my Online Opinion piece of May 2011:

Some facts about the Middle-East

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11987

Maybe it's time for a follow-up.