So busy pondering the other aspects I forgot that old favourite

"sending messages that contribute to eating disorders, depression and self-harm?

Why is it that female writers worried about the objectification of women and contributions to eating disorders, depression and self-harm seem to be mainly bothered by material predominately targeting men rather than material very specifically aimed at women which is much more relentless in is message of body shape and personal trauma?

Stand in the checkout queue at woollies for a while and browse the covers of the womens mags on display and you will see what would seem to be far more harmful messages for women than any billboard promoting a strip club.

BTW those magazine covers are on display to children as well.

R0bert

I'll tell you what's inconsistent, so called "progressives" who call for censorship.

This is similar to the saying: ‘If you help the poor, you’re a saint. If you question why there is poverty, you’re a communist.’

If you condemn an individual man’s violence against an individual woman, you’re a mature citizen. If you question why so many women are victims of male violence, you’re a troublemaker – or worse, a feminist.

Winton,

If the American rapper in question had directed the same violence-inciting words against the government or against property or against any other valued entity in our ‘free’ society, like the police, the military, the media or Israel, it would have sparked an arrest and/or an international diplomatic incident.

But as the target was the female half of the human race, it’s simply a free speech issue.

Rhian

'When Tyler shouted “who is going to go out of here tonight and rape and kill someone?" I’m guessing no-one actually went out and did it.'

Oh really? And I suppose if he'd said 'who is going to go out of here tonight and attack and kill a taxi-driver?' you're guessing no one would actually go out and do it. Taxi-drivers would have absolutely nothing to fear from a crowd of tens of thousands of drunken, spaced-out, hyped-up-on-violence youth being let loose after the concert.

And I suppose if he'd asked who is going to go out of there that night and destroy an Anzac memorial or a synagogue or a police station, the authorities would have just shrugged and said: 'Oh well, we value freedom of speech in this free country'.

When it comes to the long-term struggle for female equality, I'd put my faith in men as a group before I'd ever put my faith in women like you.

Killarney, the fact is that 60% of partner violence is mutual and more than half the rest is initiated by women.

The pretence that men are instigators of violence is not going to work any more. It's been shown for what it is - a pack of lies designed to break down family units and push women into the workforce in order to drive an increase in women at the top of corporate and government structures. It has been a deliberate policy to create the conditions for violence in order to provide a justification for more draconian regulation and hence more opportunities for a small subset of 'progressive" women to fill the top positions, from where they can influence policy to create still more victims.

The sort of thing that is being discussed in this article is a response to that by men who are expressing their sense of powerlessness, as is a great deal of DV, I suspect.

You're just a dupe of forces far beyond your understanding, I'm afraid.

I feel very sorry for the women of Australia and the rest of the Anglophone world. They've been sold down the river by unscrupulous people like Anne Summers and the rest of the femocrats feathering their own nest. A change is coming as the money runs out

Anti,

If I disdain to walk down darkened streets by myself or resort to locking windows and doors if I'm alone at night - it's not because I fear being attacked by women.