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Australia must also caution on Gardasil : Comments

By Renate Klein and Helen Lobato, published 28/6/2013

To date, Australia’s database of adverse event notifications has recorded over 1991 suspected side effects following the cervical cancer vaccination.

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It's all fun and games until it happens to your own child, whether that's a serious disease or a serious adverse reaction you'll permanently be on one side of this polarizing debate from that point onwards.

The top comment on this list immediately speaks out lambasting this post as being strictly anti-vaccination, which does a disservice to the reality of what has happened in Japan where they are no longer recommending HPV vaccination from Gardasil due to concerns over too many adverse reactions. Governments don't make these decisions lightly.

As for the straight numbers - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22480925

Potential overestimation of HPV vaccine impact due to unmasking of non-vaccine types: quantification using a multi-type mathematical model.

RESULTS: There could be an apparent maximum increase of 3-10% in long-term cervical cancer incidence due to non-vaccine HPV types following vaccination.

The vaccine could be causing an INCREASE in cervical cancers due to unmasking the many other HPV strains the vaccine does not target. Do your own research, don't just bleat what the mainstream media is telling you to bleat. The best way to avoid cervical cancer is not trusting on a vaccine, but by getting regular checkups and keeping your home and diet as free as possible of carcinogenics. If you're not sure what all those ingredients in your bath products are, look some of them up at the Environmental Working Group's database. Get educated, it's your health, not your government's health.

Australia is quickly becoming known around the globe as one of the most tyrannical countries where vaccination is concerned, pretty soon passing the USA.
Posted by RichidsCoulter, Sunday, 30 June 2013 12:14:15 AM
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What a load of rubbish this article is.
Just a week ago I went to a seminar on gynaecological cancers, where a number of Gynae medical specialists, including chemotherapy and radiotherapy doctors gave presentations.

They put up Australian health department stats and graphs showing the dramatic decline in cervical cancers, and resulting deaths, since the introduction of gardasil injections for young teenagers and young women.
All the other gynaecological cancers have continued to rise in number.

These are the medical people that treat only these sorts of cancer, so I tend to go with what they say than any other would-be 'experts'.

My daughter had her vaccination at the age of 13, with not a trace of side effects, and neither did any of the hundreds of girls at her school.

I would certainly rather she took her chances with a proven vaccine than with cervical cancer.
Her cousin died of cervical cancer at the age of 22, ten years ago...
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 30 June 2013 1:31:19 AM
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More anti-vaccine silliness. The cherry picking of source material (I mean whale.to of all places), the failure to make proper comparisons, the same old debunked claims returning like zombies. It reminds me a lot of the efforts of climate change deniers.

This bit “In the U.S. the total number of adverse effects stands now at 30,000, with 138 deaths…”

The VAERS database contains mainly self-reported adverse events following vaccination. Most are trivial: 94% are for dizziness, nausea, headache, fainting and pain at the injection site. Klein and Lobato fail to mention this.

It is the serious adverse effects that should be looked at. Even here, most are unrelated to the vaccine, but just happened to occur shortly after the vaccination occurred. Klein and Lobato carry on about the 138 deaths, but even then they are not being honest about what is going on. In the database, causes of death have included: diabetes, genetically inherited amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, illicit drug use, abortion, meningoencephalitis, and influenza – deaths totally unrelated to the vaccine, but Klein and Lobato want people to think these deaths were caused by the vaccine.

There is some good analysis of the VAERS adverse effects from HPV here http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=184421

We then get a couple of anecdotes, but without adequate medical history to make useful sense of them.

RichidsCoulter chimes in with a research paper they have failed to read properly. The research paper can be found here http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X12004574

What the research is actually saying is that the number of cancers attributed to non-vaccine strains of HPV in the future could increase by 3 to 10% due to over-estimates of the number of cancers attributed to the vaccine strains of HPV now. This would not be a real increase in cancer at all.
Posted by Agronomist, Sunday, 30 June 2013 9:15:05 AM
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Suseonline, this bit from your post surprised me: "Australian health department stats and graphs showing the dramatic decline in cervical cancers, and resulting deaths, since the introduction of gardasil injections for young teenagers and young women." I would have thought that Gardisil hadn't been around long enough to have had a measurable impact on cancer figures yet, given the lead time for cancers to develop. Did anyone question that?
Posted by Candide, Monday, 1 July 2013 9:43:40 AM
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My daughter was one of the first wave to have the Gardasil Vaccine. I was so keen that I payed full price for the vaccine, not wanting to wait until it was on the PBS. She delayed sexual activity until after the protocol was complete.

Now 24, I have just attended her first Colposcopy. She has NEVER had a normal pap smear. Her risk was low...she is not promiscuous, she is a non smoker, she has ZERO family history and she lives a healthy lifestyle.

There are apparently 4 HPV types that Gardasil protects against. To my surprise the doctor revealed that AT NO TIME, is the type of HPV that causes lesions of any type investigated in the pathology process. This means that no-one is checking whether the vaccine is preventing those 4 types of HPV. NO-ONE!

My daughter has been poisoned by a vaccine that has no place in a health system. She will suffer because I believed that the vaccine worked. I guarantee, there are many more cases like hers on the horizon...an avalanche in fact.

The AUSTRALIAN HEALTH SYSTEM IS BROKEN. BAN THIS VACCINE!
Posted by AussieMum, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 2:49:00 PM
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Hi AussieMum,
I am very sorry to hear about your experience with Gardasil and wish your daughter a speedy recovery. As one of the authors of this article I wonder if you would contact me
via my email
questiongardasil@gmail.com
Posted by lucille, Friday, 19 July 2013 9:55:23 AM
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