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Keeping coal in the ground, where it belongs : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 20/6/2013

Jobs are important but is it not madness to prop up the industries of the past century, when clean energy is the path to all our survival?

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...Great Idea Rhosty...but Tax the rich to develop the dream, don't plunder the poor, who now display changed lifestyles which exclude heating in winter and cooling in summer, as a consequence to fulfilling the dreams of dreamers with influence!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:15:26 PM
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Ms Bender,

You really do need to calm down a bit.

You write, "Humans are amazing creatures. We are capable of staggering brilliance, as well as dumbfounding stupidity, and able to act in total contradiction of all known facts."

I respectfully suggest to you that it is you who is demonstrating dumbfounding stupidity and acting in contradiction of known facts.

Here are known facts for you evaluate:

Carbon is not a pollutant - Carbon is the 15th most abundant natural element in the Earth's crust, and the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. It is present in all known life forms, and in the human body carbon is the second most abundant element by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen. Not pollutant!

We do not "pump 90 million tons of carbon into the atmosphere on a daily basis" - It is alleged that this figure relates to carbon dioxide (CO2). CO2 is a naturally occurring chemical compound. It is a gas at standard temperature and pressure and exists in Earth's atmosphere naturally, as a trace gas at a concentration of 0.04% by volume. Human contribution to this concentration over the last 150 years is conjectured to be about 0.012%. Not something to get hysterical about.

"World wide the military is gearing up for the ongoing aftermath..." - not! Military does what they're told to do. Governments with vested interests in power and control have directed military advisers to draw up plans for such contingencies. The military is not gearing up. Military only do what they're told to do and nothing else. Anything else is called mutiny or treason.

There is no extant evidence to support conjectures that "we are doomed to have a very changed planet", or that "droughts, floods, extreme weather events, food and water shortages, insect born illness will be the legacy that we bequeath to our children and grandchildren" No extant evidence whatsoever!

I would like to go on, but I'm out of word count.

Stick to writing your novels. You seem to have a penchant for science fiction.

Cheers.
Posted by voxUnius, Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:20:59 PM
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People who have studied humanities, & psychologist in particular should be prevented from raving on about things they know nothing.

Yes I know it would be a little cruel to make these people never speak again, but nowhere near as it is to let the fools convince others to follow the same know nothing ideas. The cost to so many is a reasonable life, of moderate comfort, while the fools preen themselves in front of other fools.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:28:18 PM
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@Prompete

"Climate commission... 50-50 chance there will be no humans left on the planet in 87 years time. Yep, gotta take those clowns seriously."

There is 100% chance there will be no Climate Commission left in 6 months time.
Posted by Atman, Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:58:46 PM
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Hear! Hear! No more climate commission and so less of this total nonsense about no humans being left or that we might get back to conditions where waters are 80 meters higher than now.. (the IPCC's maximum forecast is for an additional 0.8 meters by the end of the century)..

that is the motto of global warmers.. when in need of a good scare story make one up..
Posted by Curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 June 2013 5:01:55 PM
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Develop new technologies by all means, but fossil fuels are not ifs-and-maybes, they are available right here and now. Get real.

The fact there are polar ice caps clearly indicates the Earth has been much hotter in the past and their melting would cool things down.
The Earth can regulate its own temperature.

Yes, that would create problems for silly walking apes who build cities right on the beachfront, but it wouldn't make the *planet* "unfit for human habitation"!

And underneath that ice is a tiny little island known as Antartica, which would finally be of use to somebody.
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 21 June 2013 12:59:59 AM
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