@Jay – “…Turkey might be "moderate" relative to other majority Moslem nations but its human rights record is appalling, particularly in the treatment of religious and ethnic minorities…” – could not agree more, spot on.
A large number of people there recognise that and are frankly fed up with it, recent examples being the arbitrary arrest of any “threats” to the ruling Islamist AK Party, hence the unrest.

Turkey represents an interesting case study due to its strong western influence; Ataturk set out to westernise the country as he could see the issues ahead if Turkey remained close to the Islamic influences of the Arab world.

I also wish to thank you, Timothy, for expressing so eloquently my own impressions of the rubbish that Uthman Badar expounds.

I do believe that most moderate Moslems, especially those that flee to seek sanctuary in any western country, would not wish to live again under any sort of Islamic regime, but find themselves trapped. There are obviously fanatics within their own communities who will not treat them kindly if they show any lessening of Islamic faith, even potential killers in their own families. Whole Islamic communities applaud so-called "honour killings". Consider the plight of Aayan Hirsi Ali, who had to flee The Netherlands after leaving the faith. In a Christian church it's a common sight to see someone not joining in a prayer, say, but everyone bows down in a mosque - I think from fear of one's neighbours, not of Allah.

We should outlaw mosques, and Islamic schools, to show solidarity with those who flee to our country to avoid Islamic tyranny. It might stop the boats, and, if Badar doesn't like it, he can piss off!