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There is a war on ordinary people and feminists are needed at the front : Comments

By John Pilger, published 7/6/2013

With honourable exceptions, the bourgeois media club relegates and distracts from the fact that a full-blooded class war is under way.

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What a hoot! John Pilger doesn't even seem to realise that he is the Bell Wether of the bourgeoisie, the "Right" want global socialism with state capitalism, the "Left just want global socialism at any price.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 7 June 2013 10:27:48 PM
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I get the feeling that John Pilger has run out of things to write about.
Posted by Agronomist, Saturday, 8 June 2013 1:27:15 PM
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Praxidice –
I’m passing this on from a reader of the latest issue of Crikey. It argues that Foyle’s comment is highly relevant to Pilger’s article and to John Pilger.
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This quote appeared in Counterpunch May 2013 under Jeffrey St Clair’s by-line.
It concisely summarises how the US has sunk to its lowest point as a society since its independence.
“Our politics has gone sociopathic and liberals in America have been pliant to every abuse, marinated in the toxic silt of Obama’s mordant rhetoric. They eagerly swallow every placebo policy Obama serves them, dutifully defending every incursion against fundamental rights. And each betrayal only serves to make his adoring retinue crave his smile; his occasional glance and nod all the more urgently. Still others on the dogmatic Left circle endlessly, like characters consigned to their eternal roles by Dante, in the ideological cul-de-sac of identity politics.
How much will we stomach before rising up? A fabricated war, a looted economy, a scalded atmosphere, a despoiled gulf, the loss of habeas corpus, the assassination of American citizens…
One looks in vain across this vast landscape of despair for even the dimmest flickers of real rebellion and popular mutiny, as if surveying a nation of somnambulists.
We remain strangely impassive in the face of our own extinction”.

[Note apt reference to cul de sac of identity politics – EmperorJulian]
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 8 June 2013 3:24:24 PM
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EmperorJulian

I agree with the article, Australia is only a gnats whisker behind yankeeland in all respects. Other than the general descent into damnation however, I've yet to see the relevance of feminists ... unless you are saying you see them as part and parcel of the whole degradation of society scene.
Posted by praxidice, Saturday, 8 June 2013 4:03:21 PM
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Most of the ideas and solutions and non solutions here are simply crap.

People are capable of determining their our futures. That is the great lesson of liberal democracies.

How they accomplish that has been interferred with since the 'liberated sixties'.

What has happen since and will continue to occur is that individuals will express their acceptance or rejection of the dominant mores within a society. They don't rail against this or that or proclaim the latest 'intellectual' fad. They look at what works or fails in their own lives.

Currently people are very seriously exploring their own sexuality.
aka. '50 shades of grey". Btw it has been dumped as quickly as it was read. It was rubbish. The point was it was read by millions. You have to ask why when porn is so freely available.

The next step will be to question the moralities surrounding the basic activities in society. sex and reproduction.

That is occurring now.

After that and when those issues have been resolved how we interact will be questioned. Nobody can predict the outcome of that nor engineer how individuals will decide what is best for them. They will work that ou themselves . Liberal democracies and Capitalism will respond best to those decisions.
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 8 June 2013 5:04:21 PM
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What will determine social structural features will be energy and its social analog, money.

Money is social energy, that flows in the opposite direction to physical energy. If I want to have energy expended on my behalf, I have to expend money. I think there is a direct analog between thermodynamics and economdynamics, which is that the total amount of money possesed by any entity consists of 3 forms, which are analogs of entropy, free energy and temperature.

Financial entropy is what is required to hold the structure together in any particular state. Our entropy is high. Financial temperature is the money in circulation internally that determines the entropy that can be maintained in a stable state. Ours is high, but the increased entropy embodied in the social policies of the Government is sucking it up. Free energy is the money available to do things externally, like trade or wage war. Ours is declining.

We're going to find ourselves very short on social energy, but with a highly structured set of government programs. It is inevitably going to lead to some of that structure collapsing to release the social energy it contains. I suspect that's going to continue for a lengthy period as the global system becomes more entropic and less money flows to us to add the social energy that is lost as useless heat.
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 8 June 2013 5:34:59 PM
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