IMO, any constitutional change needs plenty of time to debate it. We need to consider the consequences (especially the unintended consequences). The last thing we need is the State and Federal politicians telling us what they think is best - based on their motivated reasoning - and we just accept what they say.

The LNP supports it and I wrote this to the LNP Federal members of Parliament.

"See attached for some background on one of the possible consequences of Local Government being added to the constitution.

You might love the idea of another 'back-door' way to get the "Sustainability" crowd to run our lives, but I hate it.

You might be interested in 'Agenda 21' and what it really is. There is much more to it.

Agenda 21 and local government:

http://archive.iclei.org/

http://www.iclei.org/

http://www.green-agenda.com/index.html

http://slavenewworld.ca/index.php/agenda-21/54-agenda-21/1305-agenda-21-in-your-area-local-governments-for-sustainablilty

http://nwri.org/agenda-21/

Around 100 Australian local councils have already signed up to it and are now obligated to comply with UN commandments No matter how it is denied). Some examples are:

Australian Capital Territory Government
Ashfield Municipal Council
Bega Valley Shire Council
Burwood Council
City of Lake Macquarie
City of Sydney
Coffs Harbour City Council
Gosford City Council
Hunters Hill Council
Kogarah Council
Leichhardt Municipal Council
Liverpool City Council
Mosman Municipal Council
North Sydney Council
Brisbane City Council
Cairns Regional Council
Ipswich City Council
Sunshine Coast Regional Council
Townsville City Council
Adelaide City Council

The last thing we need is the State and Federal politicians telling us what they think is best - based on their motivated reasoning - and we just accept what they say.

Personally I don't believe **ANYTHING** uttered by a bloodsucking parasite. Basically if their lips move I automatically assume its a lie. Motives are invariably suspect / nefarious and this won't be any different. Mind you if Agenda 21 puts the kybosh on 'developers' (more correctly 'attilas' after the fifth century barbarian), it might not be altogether bad. On the other hand, United Nations decisions aren't exactly notable for their common sense & if the bloodsucking parasites have their grubby snouts anywhere near, I smell something fishy thats not seafood.

I am also for more efficient govt at all levels. i am sure there is much waste at all levels.

Essentially agree with praxdice. No ifs buts or maybes, we should recognise councils.
Recognising them, won't somehow magically increase the number of Bureaucrats or Politicians, as another poster seems to oddly believe?
Just recognise the few not currently receiving official recognition, via the constitution!
Now if we could just have a referendum to remove the middle tier, or money shuffling middleman, State Govts.
We'd save around 70 billions per!
Nothing that they currently actually "manage" or block, that couldn't be better managed through the Fed, local councils, and reinstituted voluntary unpaid regional boards? Who basically sit through their lunch hours!
And usually consist of highly experienced professionals and local successful business operators!
Meaning, we could actually reduce current bureaucracies, rather than expand them, as others, with perhaps a vested interest in, the current status quo, have fatuously suggested or keep insisting on?
Rhrosty.

neverwas has done it again, he has topped Don for faux outage and shock about this government.

Whilst it would be the best thing since sliced bread, abolishing state gubmunts is almost certainly impossible. Even if it was possible to workaround the constitutional issues, could anyone imagine dictators like General Disaster voluntarily relinquishing his position ?? I believe however there are steps we could put in place that over time would provide the levers necessary to regain control over our elected servants.

Firstly, demand total & irrevocable control of the parliamentary renumeration tribunal & subsequently starve the bloodsucking parasites into submission.

Secondly, demand citizen initiated referenda as I understand is the case in Switzerland. Someone in a different thread suggested 'it would never be allowed' .... high time it bloody well WAS allowed !!

Obviously the most difficult hurdle to overcome is the legendary apathy of the sheeple.