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Government needs honesty on Shariah : Comments

By Joseph Wakim, published 15/4/2013

Public statements about Shariah need to discern between the criminal and civil elements.

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Agree almost completely with Shadow Minister.
If Shariah law is problematic for moderate Muslim communities, it clearly has no place in any society, founded on Christian principles; and innocent until proven guilty, as the foundation basis for our criminal laws!
If people want to come and settle here, they need to accept and adopt our customs and social mores! One of those customs is freedom of religion.
Or indeed, any other entirely unproven belief based system, even a stone age cult or medieval one?
This is the essence of tolerance, which some of the more fundamental advocates, [or the self appointed, who purport with extreme or unbelievable arrogance, to know the mind of God, and indeed, appoint themselves as his self anointed spokespersons,] have yet to learn.
Persuade with evidence backed by conviction by all means, not some lines written in any book over a thousand years ago, and constantly rewritten, reinterpreted/misinterpreted, summarily edited and revised dozens of times since then?
Arguably, to edit out inconvenient truisms or former belief/teaching!?
If we must study Islam in order to get to know it better, then surely it ought to be the oldest and least revised form, or the inherently peaceful, meditative Sofie tradition?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 15 April 2013 4:29:35 PM
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My concern with Shariah compliant financial services is how it might relate to laws concerning divorce and inheritance as examples, bestowing rights on men that they would otherwise not be entitled to under Australian law. I haven't heard any discussion on potential conflicts in this area, I am interested what anyone else thinks.
Posted by Farquhar, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 9:27:13 AM
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Does Halduell renounce terrorism which is committed by islamists?

Can he explain what islam brings to Western democracies by way of improvement?

Does he believe in individual rights, regardless of whether such rights are "immodest" or openly critical of islam? What exactly does he mean by "immodesty"?
Posted by cohenite, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 10:07:14 AM
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Gee Farquhar, I've always been against any change to our law, but when you put it that way, roll on Shariah.

Hell we might even get some equity back into the child support system & the distribution of wealth when a relationship breaks down.

Must admit I'll miss the acres of tanned flesh on the beach, but you can't have everything can you? Then those 72 virgins couldn't be all covered up could they, if I decide to make that final sacrifice.

This religion stuff is so hard, isn't it?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 12:19:47 PM
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The Australian Government may wish to court Muslim investment but the only Law under which businesses registered & operating here should be required to abide by is Australian Law. Shariah Law or any other foreign codified system of law must not be elevated in status above any of the dozens of other legal frameworks that accompany immigrants to this country. Shariah Law in particular is ruthlessly imposed on several unwilling populations & has an horrific, bloody history commensurate with the anachronistic attitudes of its adherents. Given the imperialist beliefs to which Jihad is logically connected, the introduction of any component of Shariah Law must be assertively opposed & its inherent cruelty, bigotry & exclusionary practices, rejected. Muslims can observe their religion & do business here under the umbrella of Australian Law, just like the rest of us.
Posted by OZSHRINK, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 1:35:39 PM
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Hasbeen: Then those 72 virgins couldn't be all covered up could they

Didn't they tell you that 72 virgins are all blokes. ;-O
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 2:14:07 PM
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