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By Babette Francis, published 1/3/2013The path of least resistance is to live in the mental state of dhimmitude and do nothing to provoke Islamist ire, but the consequence is a loss of freedom.
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Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 3 March 2013 5:58:01 PM
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Excerpt from From Snopes: >>Everything up to and including "a war between civilization & barbarism" in the piece quoted above is a direct excerpt from an interview given by Dr. Eldad to New English Review in November 2008. The line "Bibi (Netanyahu) gets it, Obama does not" and everything beyond it is not; that section was added by some unknown person. As to the veracity of Eldad's story about a burn patient turned suicide bomber, it is indeed an account of an actual incident, except for the small detail of how the aspiring terrorist came by her burns. (She was injured by a gas tank explosion rather than deliberately by her family in retaliation for a suspected affair.) On 20 June 2005, twenty-one-year-old Wafa Samir Ibrahim al-Biss was detained at a crossing into Israel when something about her gait struck the guards on duty at that post as somewhat amiss. This Palestinian woman was arrested after a search revealed she had been carrying 22 lbs. of explosives strapped to her body. While al-Biss had ostensibly been attempting to enter Israel to attend a follow-up appointment at the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheva, questioning revealed that it had been her intent to detonate the payload she'd been carrying at that institution. The would-be bomber had been treated there five months previous for severe burns received after a gas canister exploded on a fire while she was cooking at her refugee camp home in the Gaza Strip.> Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 3 March 2013 6:11:27 PM
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Wafa Samir Ibrahim al-Biss was sentenced to 12 years in prison. She was released in 2012 as part of a contingent of 1,000 Palestinian Prisoners who were swapped for Gilad Shalit.
Here is a clip of an interview she gave after her release: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DE9ynOkxK0Q She wants to try again as have urged others to have a go. Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 3 March 2013 7:16:44 PM
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This is exactly right; there are many instances where Islam as expressed in its believers' behaviour can only be regarded as a pathology which is free of reason and rationality.
The West, based on reason and rationality, cannot deal with a 'force' like islam where many of its adherents act like lunatics. The issue is, does islam attract the mentally disturbed or make people mentally deranged? Until we can have that conversation where people such as the woman in steven's example are regarded as insane, and the role and nature of religion in both shaping and being a product of peoples' view of reality then islam will have its way in the West. Posted by cohenite, Sunday, 3 March 2013 10:44:54 PM
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The statements of the invitees to the so-called Islamic "Peace Conference" in Melbourne are on the public record. Nary a whisper. Wilders points these Islamic doctrines out - harassed and vilified by the extreme, narrow-minded secularist press.
Prof. Patrick Deneen yesterday on our political 'order'. http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/03/9458/ "I am profoundly dissatisfied with the extant order—...the nation is in a very bad pass. We seem to be a **civilization intent on suicide**, whether in the form of passing on unconscionable debt to our children and grandchildren, or literally the suicide that comes of an unwillingness even to have children, or to discard them when inconvenient. While the nation’s elites cry out over the injustice of limiting marriage to man and woman (indicting the whole history of humanity), they turn a blind eye to the destruction of millions of fellow citizens in the womb and somehow fail to notice that a third of the nation’s children are growing up in fatherless households. While they decry the devastation of the “environment” (not “nature”—that would be too normative), they consume no less, and likely far more than the average, and cannot spare a word of concern about the consumption of the future to finance the present. **The entire political class—reflecting the infantilization of the citizenry, no doubt connected to a debased popular culture—is incapable of articulating the true extent of, and demands required by, the extraordinary challenges we face.**" Posted by Martin Ibn Warriq, Thursday, 7 March 2013 4:24:31 PM
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Repaid Kindnes:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/israel/eldad.asp
Excerpts:
>>From: Dr. Arieh Eldad:
I was instrumental in establishing the Israeli National Skin Bank, which is the largest in the world. The National Skin Bank stores skin for every day needs as well as for war time or mass casualty situations.
This skin bank is hosted at the Hadassah Ein Kerem University hospital in Jerusalem where I was the Chairman of plastic surgery. This is how I was asked to supply skin for an Arab woman from Gaza, who was hospitalized in Soroka Hospital in Beersheva, after her family burned her...
We supplied all the needed Homografts for her treatment. She was successfully treated by my friend and colleague, Prof. Lior Rosenberg and discharged to return to Gaza. She was invited for regular follow-up visits to the outpatient clinic in Beersheva.
One day she was caught at a border crossing wearing a suicide belt. She meant to explode herself in the outpatient clinic of the hospital where they saved her life. It seems that her family promised her that if she did that, they would forgive her...>>