imajuliannutter

1.a reading of the ancient Greeks, Russian classics, the great philosophers and thinkers of the western world through the ages confirms basic truth never changes.

2.What does change is the alternatives various shallower writers throw up. eg marx and engels and most of the writers of the 'me' generation of today.

3.read them and you'll learn, as I have.

Some interesting points there nutter - and an interesting claim that you've read 'the Ancient Greeks, the Russian classics, AND the great philosophers and thinkers of the Western world through the ages

Speaking as someone who has in depth read and studied Plato, i.e. The Republic, The Laws et al,(and what remains of the best oppositional philosophy - mainly therefore by references made by his contemporaries and within which incidentally are the seeds of today's Occupy thinkers and activisms) read and studied Decartes and Nietzsche (together with Lampert's excellent commentaries)Kant to some degree, as with others, and just about everything of Chomsky outside of his linguistic work, and having dismissed Marks' writings as a series of assertions with no real philosophical content or science, let alone merit I think that perhaps now I begin to understand where you're coming from?

Do tell me deezul.do-nicely, does it hurt, & is it possible for you to sit down?

hasbeen
In no degree does it hurt, mainly because
1. That doesn't mean I agree with anything nutter has so far put forward, nor do I believe that he's studied any of the philosophers in depth (which isn't at all to be equated with 'reading' them) and though he hasn't mentioned it I'll take bets on him not having investigated in any depth whatsoever the Ancient Greek philosophers, by which I mean their backgrounds, and Plato in particular. If he by any chance has then he's simply swallowed the hook, the line and the rod and most obviously hasn't considered that its exactly those philosophies which have and still are directly responsible for our present societies whereby a tiny number of the 1% own everything, including most of the planets resources, aided by their complicit specialised political class whose only duty and allegiance is to their Oligarch masters and certainly not to the 99% - whilst they offer promises to you which they won't and have no intention of keeping and, if you foolishly vote them into office, they'll deliver the same old sops which have no real beneficial effect for you. That's those self same politicians of which you're all debating and discussing the merits thereof. In short you're all dancing the tune that all politicians have played for you through the ages. The only pertinent comment I've read in here from an indigenous soul was an observation that when centralisation was minimal things worked a lot better and that when centralisation came more to the fore, it all got a lot worse.
Jeez you know, I'm so looking forward to the end of this years summer and watching your cricketers leaving with their sorely whipped ego's shattered into tiny little pieces.

Deezel mate,

Jeez you could become aussie yet.

I, like you, mostly subscribe to Plato's Socretes. But I also see the relevance of Diogenes, especially in today's world.

Watch for my novel later this year. A mother's Tuition: A Father's Love.

K. Kennelly.

ah apologies nutter for the late reply - been away from the forum on matters personal - a sin blemish, diagnosed as skin cancer but not the malignant variety thank goodness, Even so they've chopped that area and a bit more out of my skin and underlying tissue. The operation (local anesthetic) was okay, the aftermath extremely painful - so again
my apologies.
But your 'could become an Aussie comment cheered me up immensely :-)

nudge me with a comment when your book is published nutter and I'll for sure be reading it with some anticipation :-)