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By Jo Coghlan, published 6/2/2013New Gillard ministers face test from Geert Wilders.
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Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 7 February 2013 3:48:46 PM
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Loudmouth,
Read the post again. The way colonialism has always worked is that the colonist plays on tribal or ethnic rivalries, he favours the minority or those with a grievance against the majority with special status, wealth and land then uses them to terrorise and subjugate the majority. Your version of reality is based on the ideology of non white victimhood and the Noble Savage, mine is based on reality, the version of history where Hector Munro with his eight hundred British and ten thousand Brahmins and Rajputs routed a forty thousand strong Mughal Army. Every Anglo Lone Ranger has his Tonto ;) Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 7 February 2013 6:39:26 PM
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We're drifting here, back to topic.
Anyone ever heard of Paul Fromm, Tomislav Sunic, Jared Taylor or Andrew Yeoman? Those four gentlemen are pro White activists, even White Nationalists they've all visited Australia and given lectures on White issues and political activism in the last few years, yet the media ignored them. They were not troubled by immigration, nobody threatened to picket or disrupt their meetings and the media made no mention whatsoever of their presence in the country. So why the hoopla over Geert Wilders? It's perfectly obvious that the "establishment" approve of Wilders, the Q Society and the broader "Counter Jihad" society and are comfortable with the level of publicity he is receiving because from their point of view it's constructive on some level. The men named above hold and promote views which are the antithesis of those held by the "establishment", so they are ignored and denied the free publicity given to Wilders. The White Nationalists gave their talks at private rooms in suburban clubs and pubs or private homes, the last time Robert Spencer addressed a meeting of the Counter Jihad faithful down here he was working in a banquet room at the Hotel Mercure so we can assume that Wilders will appear at a similar class of venue....now really, to a reasonable, adult mind does the outrage over Wilders come from genuine concern for public safety or does it smack of a publicity stunt? Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 7 February 2013 8:02:59 PM
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Jo, according to your account, if Wilders is allowed to come he is likely to attempt to explain his view that an un-assimilated Islamic population means 'an end of free societies with less individual freedoms'.
Although I suspect he is probably wrong about that, I would like to think that we still live in an open society where the government allows citizens to hear the full range of views about such matters and to make up their own minds. Posted by Winton Bates, Monday, 11 February 2013 2:14:24 PM
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Hi Winton,
Thanks for that. As it happens, I hold my nose and support Wilders coming to Australia and speaking. As long as he keeps away from 'race', and focusses on the dangers of granting different religious groups or 'cultural' groups special rights to, as it were, extract some of their populations, i.e. women, from the provisions and protections of Australian law, and as long as he promotes the rights of all Australians without fear or favor, Enlightenment values one could say, I'm happy. As we are seeing now in Egypt, Tunisia, India, Afghanistan and Pakistan, the struggle of women for equality is going to be long and very bitter. There are such things as evil cultural practices - no, not all 'cultures' are equal - and I certainly would not support their practice in Australia. Sometimes I suspect that 'culture' is little more than the justification for a social and historical status quo, which inevitably has favored men. In that sense, genuine revolutions overthrow culture, and usually long after their use-by date. So I also suspect that revolutions in the foreseeable future are going to have women in their front ranks. What will progressive men do - that is the question. Western feminists may well be irrelevant in all of this. Cheers, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 11 February 2013 2:35:46 PM
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I would welcome Geert's opinion if he has genuine concerns about Muslims and Islam; but if u care to do a little research u will know that he is a Hasbarat i.e. a propaganda operative for the zionist propaganda machine run by the Israelis who are currently running a campaign of hate against Islam because they believe Muslims got inspired by Islam to raise up their voice against zionist atrocities inflicted on the Palestinians. Hence his opinion is worthless and I believe those Aussies professing to be patriotic are nuts because on one hand they resent the zionist control of western world whilst on the other they r supporting a Hasbarat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLs6C2hYC8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MgSUnq7_5Y http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/12/the-great-islamophobic-crusade/ Posted by JGandhi, Monday, 18 February 2013 1:32:14 PM
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On my planet, during colonial times, subject people not only didn't have any special rights over those of the lumpen white population in their districts, but couldn't vote, couldn't get a decent education, often were required to do forced labor, or corvee, and in some colonial countries, e.g. the Congo, could be executed for speaking the master-language. In the West Indies, under slavery (have you heard of that ?), missionaries were jailed for trying to teach slaves to read and write.
But on your planet, it is all so different. I wonder where it is in the universe exactly ?
Cheers,
Joe