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Palestine: creative compromises can conquer conflict : Comments

By David Singer, published 14/1/2013

In the end, the Resolution does not change the Palestinians lives on the ground, and it does not 'recognise' Palestine as a state.

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Listen, CSteele, the Singer does not want information that reveals the truth about the brutal Israeli occupation to appear on his posts.

How do I know? Because he spends all his time trying to whitewash the Israelis while he pretends to be searching for a just solution to the problems created by ongoing Israeli imperialism and genocide and war crimes.

One of the things that the Israelis in particular and the Jews in general have been successful in doing is burying information that reveals the true extent of the daily horror that the Palestinians, men, women and children, are forced to live under.

Thanks for providing the links!

Films like 'Five Cameras' show it how it is and I hope that the film is shown in every country in the world.
Posted by David G, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:05:27 PM
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To #Halduell

Where the current Arab initiatives involving Egypt and Jordan that I wrote about finally end up - will no doubt be the subject of ongoing speculation.

The fact that they are happening must be welcomed by all who hope to see this 130 years old conflict resolved.

#To Emperor Julian

I can help you find the 1935 borders.

The 1935 borders encompassed what is known today as Israel,Jordan the West Bank and Gaza. Jordan comprised 78% of the territory of Palestine within those 1935 borders and Israel 17%.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 11:58:02 AM
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#To csteele

Sad when you think the film would never have had to be made had the Arabs accepted the 1937 Peel Commission or 1947 UN Partition proposals.

Even sadder when you consider a Palestinian Arab state could have been created within 100% of the West Bank and Gaza with East Jerusalem as its capital at any time between 1950-1967 when not one Jew lived in the West Bank, Gaza or East Jerusalem as they had all been driven out by the invading Arab armies from the surrounding Arab states.

More squandered opportunities were missed in 2000/2001 and 2008 to end the conflict and bring peace and security to both Jews and Arabs.

Bil'in would be a sleepy and happy hamlet - instead of a place of violent confrontation every Friday.

No security barrier would be there today.

Now it appears with the PLO declaration of the Mickey Mouse State of Palestine that any further hopes of negotiations with the Palestinian Authority are dead and buried.

"Five broken cameras" is a film that shows the Arab suffering that is occurring and could have been avoided if the Arabs had chosen the path of peace instead of confrontation and rejectionism.

No attempt is made to show the Jewish suffering (like the 12000 rockets fired indiscriminately into Jewish population centers since 2000 and the affect that has had on the daily lives of the civilian population)

As the film maker himself (a Jew born in Israel - shudder the thought he might be a Zionist) at least had the decency to declare:

"The film has been criticised for being one sided, but of course it is one sided, it takes a point of view and it declares it."
http://www.takeonecff.com/2012/5-broken-cameras-guy-davidi-interview.

Hopefully he might take the time to visit Sderot in Southern Israel and follow families in that area whose lives are not anything like that which you and I enjoy.

Their suffering is as real as the suffering of the residents of Bil'in.

I am flattered that you have used the Posts section of OLO attached to my article to advertise the film.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:05:37 PM
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Hear ye, hear ye, I, David the Singer, want every human on earth to know that the Palestinians are completely to blame for the following:
- the invasion and occupation of their lands.
- the demolition of all their homes.
- the destruction of all their farms and orchards.
- the deaths that occurred when Israel bombed them.
- the shooting of their children by Israeli snipers.
- the deaths of pregnant Palestinians that occurred at checkpoints.
- the fact that they are subhuman.
- the failure of all peace agreements.
- the failure of American peace initiatives.
- the building of the concrete wall.
- the enclosure of the Gaza Strip.
- the crushing of peace activists under bulldozers.
- all sicknesses and tribulations experienced by Israelis.
- the Xmas tsunami that hit the Southern Pacific.
- Hurricane Sandy.
- WW1 and WW2.
- the snake in the Garden of Eden.
- the death of President Kennedy.
- and the crucifixion of Jesus.
- the extinction of the dinosaurs.

This is only a partial list but it makes the point that Palestinians are to blame for everything while Israelis, it goes without saying, are simply perfect.
Posted by David G, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 2:24:35 PM
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Dear Mr Singer,

You wrote;

“I am flattered that you have used the Posts section of OLO attached to my article to advertise the film.”

You are welcome.

BTW I think the 11,000 odd 155mm artillery shells dropped into the Gaza strip in the few years BEFORE operation Cast Lead were delivered with far more accuracy than the 12,000 rockets sent the other way. However I'm not excusing either side in this.
Posted by csteele, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 10:46:43 PM
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Mr CSteele, that you are not excusing either side is jolly good of you.

So we have a situation where the Singer blames the Palestinians for everything and you, pontifically, apportion equal blame to both sides.

The fact that the Palestinians have no army or navy and have been under brutal occupation or blockade since 1948 seems to be of no consequence to you. The fact that the Palestinians are legally entitled to fight against siege and occupation using any means doesn't seem to penetrate your august mind either.

What you want is for the victims who have suffered terribly under the cruel Israeli yoke to accept equal blame. This makes you an appeaser much like Abbas!

I suppose in your comfortable armchair many thousands of miles away from the Palestinians tragedy the idea of equal blame seems fair. It also allows you to communicate with the Singer and appear like a statesman, oh so balanced and mature.

People like you are responsible for the fact that the Palestinians have suffered so much for so long. People just like you are responsible for the deaths and genocide and destruction and humiliation visited upon the Palestinians by the Israelis for sixty-plus years.

Hang your head in shame, sir! You are not Solomon, more like Judas!
Posted by David G, Thursday, 17 January 2013 9:18:57 AM
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