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Bad medicine : Comments

By Ben Pearson, published 11/1/2013

If Australia is to make a contribution to avoiding dangerous climate change – and more weeks like this one - then the problem of our coal exports must be addressed.

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Poirot; you are pathetic!

Ken is a lovely guy who in his own time and at his own expense analyses the climate data.

What he has done is self-evident; which is to average the maximum temperatures at each of the ACORN sites which, I repeat, BOM regards as the definitive temperature record of Australia.

By doing that Ken has found BOM has exaggerated the national average maximum temperature for the 7th January 2013.

What he has done is easily checked.

You have not checked it but scorned a "retired school principle".

You are a typical alarmist; ideologically driven by your ego and arrogance against those who disagree with you; and wrong.
Posted by cohenite, Sunday, 13 January 2013 10:30:31 AM
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Posted by cohenite

Good luck when you go to hospital or rely on the social infrastructure for anything.
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I guess you seem to think that the only way the economy will work is by burning carbon based products. I totally disagree but I will leave that for the moment.

Of more interest to me is just how little Australian social infrastructure has benefited from the huge mining boom of the last ten years. To put this into some sort of perspective the profit of mining companies like Rio Tinto have dramatically increased, as has most other mining companies operating in Australia, but this has not translated into improvements in hospitals etc, which have not even been able to keep up with current demand let alone get ahead of the game.
Posted by warmair, Sunday, 13 January 2013 10:43:16 AM
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I think I’ll call this thread “The last stand at Bad Medicine”.

The warmertariat foot soldiers are bottled up on the battle field, left to fight a battle that no side can win, because it is irrelevant. The warmers’ supporting knights, artillery, logistics and supply lines have already departed the field.

As Tsun Tzu says in The Art of War, win the war not the battles. The same old ammunition, tactics, and troops are so ineffective that even the main players have left them.

The warmer ground troops are too busy chucking their old and ineffective ammunition that they never bothered to ask why the rest of their side did a runner or even know how to convince them to return.

They are left under siege by the skeptics who prod and poke them for entertainment value whilst their support disappears into the distance.

They need reminding that it matters not how much their science and “link battles” are trotted out here, their own side has abandoned them because their science was not good enough even for their own side to win.

Whilst cohenite ties up their troops and exhausts their dwindling resources, they still keep trying to win the battle but the war was fought and lost somewhere else.

Still it gives them something to do whilst they find another cause for “gullible alarmist fools”.

A horse a horse, my kingdom for a horse.
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 13 January 2013 10:43:22 AM
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cohenite,

I'm sure all the "skeptics" you trot out are lovely guys - that's beside the point.

I pointed out that a retired school principal who has a "keen interest in Global Warming..." and "...a deep seated scepticism for anything produced by governments...I am very wary of.....global warming fanatics...." blah, blah.

The very fact that he labels them "global warming fanatics" reveals he's just another "fake skeptic" - ie, a "real denier".

If he'd given a "analysis" on education, I'd consider he had some expertise in this field. As it stands. he's just another in the long list of "skeptics" you trot out whose fundamental premise is to debunk AGW sans the science"

spindoc,

You are most entertaining - especially as you continue to employ the "knights' to the rescue" analogy.

Like these:

"They are left under siege by the skeptics who prod and poke them for entertainment value whilst their support disappears into the distance..."

"Whilst cohenite ties up their troops and exhausts their dwindling resources, they still keep trying to win the battle..."

Yep...nothing's changed...The Black (cohen)Knight is still welded to spot minus his arms and legs, shouting "Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!"
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 13 January 2013 11:10:15 AM
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Poirot & Co,

I’ve stated my reasons for being here which is primarily for entertainment value as you have rightly deduced. This is reinforced by my comment to Belly on another thread, “I can’t think of a single instance where any warmer has been converted to a skeptic or visa versa”.

So I have a single question for You and Co.

What do you think you can achieve through airing your science on this or any other blog?
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 13 January 2013 11:38:34 AM
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co2 ha increased every year since 1950.

Sea level rise. In its 2007 Fourth Assessment Report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change used new satellite data to conclude that shrinkage of ice sheets may contribute more to sea level rise than it had thought as recently as 2001. The panel concluded that it could not "provide a best estimate or an upper bound for sea level rise" over the next century due to their lack of knowledge about Earth's ice.2 There are 5-6 meters worth of sea level in the Greenland ice sheet, and 6-7 meters in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, while the much larger East Antarctic Ice Sheet is probably not vulnerable to widespread melting in the next century. Many hundreds of millions of people live within that range of sea level increase, so our inability to predict what sea level rise is likely over the next century has substantial human and economic ramifications.

Contraction of snow cover areas, increased thaw in permafrost regions, decrease in sea ice extent Virtually certain
Increased frequency of hot extremes, heat waves and heavy precipitation Very likely to occur
Increase in tropical cyclone intensity Likely to occur
Precipitation increases in high latitudes Very likely to occur
Precipitation decreases in subtropical land regions Very likely to occur
Posted by 579, Sunday, 13 January 2013 12:00:07 PM
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