Jon J

Just let science improve your search for truth instead of confirming your dogma. Microscopes show quite well what a little person looks like. Stop falling for the deceitful textbooks always trying to dehumanise humans in order to justify man's barbarity (such as abortion).

>>Microscopes show quite well what a little person looks like.<<

What? A ten-week-old fetus would be visible to the naked eye. Why are we breaking out the microscopes? And how do you plan to get your little people on the slides?

Maybe you're thinking of homunculi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism

Cheers,

Tony

Oh Runner, what a load of drivel!
We have nothing in common with Stalin or Mao, yet the two children we produced have grown into fine men, and one of them is a devout Christian. The other can't make up his mind, but both of them were given free choice to choose their own paths, and strangely enough, have never asked us what we have chosen to believe or disbelieve. Maybe having good parents was enough to satisfy them.

I am sure that being either Christian or aethist, or any other faith does not automatically qualify a person to be good or bad as your post suggests.

Cherful,
Regarding control in the bedroom by clergy who have taken a vow of abstinence. To go forth and procreate, which they promote, means more future clients for their faith. Hence more money in their coffers.

Who needs a celibate man to tell us to go do what we already enjoy doing anyway?

Babette,

Thanks so much for starting this thread. Jesus told his followers that 'if the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you' (John 15:18).

Overnight I received news from the Barnabas Fund of the persecution of Christians in Syria. Some of this information was in an editorial:

As the crisis in Syria appears to be reaching a critical phase, Barnabas Fund has charted the suffering of the Christian community in a categorised timeline to show how targeted violence against them has intensified. Will the international community take note of their plight before it is too late?

Our timeline, which begins in April 2011 as violent “Arab Spring” protests were spreading through the country, has been compiled using a combination of media reports and first-hand information from our contacts in Syria. To protect our sources, we have not been able to name many of the victims.

The timeline reveals how anti-Christian hostility has become more and more brazen as the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad has gained strength, with Islamist jihadi groups playing an increasingly influential role among the rebels.

In the early days of the unrest, Christians, who have been well treated under President Assad and are therefore more inclined to support his regime, came under pressure to join the uprising. Demonstrations in Homs, which was to become a key battleground, were staged in Christian areas to intimidate the Christian residents, while elsewhere, in Hala, Christians were given an ultimatum either to join the protests or to leave.

It was not long before intimidation turned into violent attacks. The Christian community in Homs was beset by a spate of kidnappings and killings. In November 2011, a respected Christian figure reported that more than 140 Christians in the city had been murdered. The violence has continued unabated and spread to other parts of the country. The Christian death toll from Homs has risen to around 300 while in Aleppo, over 130 Christians have been killed.

Isn't it interesting ?
In all countries of the world there are problems with moslems.
They seem unable to live and let live.
They do not have tolerance of other religions, despite their insisting
that they do.
Even here they put up a webpage saying it was a sin to wish anyone
Merry Christmas. It was quickly taken down when a fuss was made but
if nothing had been said I suspect it would still be there.

Now they are at the heart of criminal activity in Sydney and are
running protection rakets and stolen car rackets.
They haven't shot up Lakemba Police Station recently you others in
other states may be interested to learn.
Perhaps the Police should let them go they might wipe each other out
if we are lucky. There is reputed to be a war in the making for 2013.
The younger shaven head ratbags are wanting to remove the older generation.