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The English language in decline? : Comments

By Jocelynne Scutt, published 14/12/2012

A guide to contemporary horrors of the vernacular

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Correction, it is Mon Tisa, I thought I'd corrected that.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:06:21 PM
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So one has to ask, is the English language in decline, or is it evolving?

Sound English skills were important when our primary form of communication was pen and paper, but we have moved on from that era, whereby we now have the likes of text, email and social media, all of which seem to have there own brand of language, which, by the way, is an abbreviated form of English. In most cases.

This evolution has been brought about due to our 'time poor' lifestyles, as sending a text in proper English is deemed to be too hard.

After all, before English, we used to communicate with a series of grunts and groans.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 15 December 2012 5:06:56 AM
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Evolving AND declining - evolution is inevitable and how the language copes with changes in society and our circumstances. Decline - well just sloppy and a bit sad. No matter how we alter our methods of communication, they are based on the English language with all its history and richness and it is important to understand that even as we choose to modify or ignore it. We have regressed from being taught all the underpinnings of English - grammar, spelling, sentence structure, pronunciation, even elocution - through a period when all those things were thought not to matter and now we are in a time when a lot of people just don't have a clue. It will be hard to reverse.

It is interesting how quickly people latch on to 'nothing' words and phrases. Has any utterance ever been improved by the addition of 'going forward', 'event' (weather event) or 'basis' (daily is fine on its own)? Why do we rush to abandon words such as 'perceptive' and replace them with clunkers like 'insightful'? Why did 'forthcoming' give way almost overnight to 'upcoming', why does nothing 'begin' anymore. Tally ho, I'm off on my hobby horse.....
Posted by Candide, Saturday, 15 December 2012 8:41:22 AM
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We have to thank Harry Potter for the fact that many kids learned to read at all, let alone take an interest in books at all?
Texting is also murdering the English language.
As are kids who try to multi skill, and retain very little, instead of focusing their attention on completing single tasks well, and thereby taking in and remembering information.
Today too many people simply can't be bothered doing their own research; but want everything served up in a link they don't need to wade through volumes to find?
Wading through volumes is what they require, to improve the missing reading skills and exposure to often interesting concepts/critical thinking.
Being able to read and comprehend complex ideas is an essential adjunct to tertiary education outcomes and individual success!
And indeed, enables an individual to express him/herself, instead of resorting to violence, simply to express outrage, disappointment, disgust or frustration?
Others have implicated slang or the misappropriated adjective?
If we removed invective and deleted all the expletives, some of us would be rendered speechless?
And a very sad commentary on everyday personal standards, that in my callow youth, would have resulted in a compulsory mouth scrubbing, with soap!
Books and a well honed imagination, is still far better entertainment than any 3D film!
And books give us all our vocabulary.
A sentence that starts with, to be honest, indicates that the speaker generally engages in completely insincere or pretentious mendacious verisimilitude, as a matter of course, and is therefore seeking to reassure the listener, that in this particular instance, this is not the actual case?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 15 December 2012 10:15:04 AM
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To be honest, I'm of the opinion that we should be mindful of the evolution of language.

Here's an excerpt from a letter written by one George Rolle to Lord Lisle, dated 1536.

"My duty remembered to your good Lordship, I have me humbly recommended to my good Lady your bedfellow, likewise advertising your lordship that I have received from your lordship two letters, the one bearing date viijth day of February, to which I have made you yet none answer, whereof ye somewhat marvel as appeareth in your second letter dated xxiijth day of February last, the tenours of which your letters I do perceive. For answer of your said letters, I have inquired of my Lord Daubeney's demeanour as secretly as I can , and I perceive at this time he is not determined nor disposed to hurt my lady and Mr Basser's title;..."

Just imagine if the English language had ceased to evolve at this point. I'm sure George Rolle and Lord Lisle would have looked upon "proper English" as spoken in the early twentieth century (before technology changed the paradigm) as a sad decline compared with the "proper" use of language in the sixteenth century.

Its all relative....apparently.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:06:39 AM
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For serious, like? You had me totes emotes at "2B honest..."
Posted by WmTrevor, Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:22:14 AM
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