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Is solar power the answer? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 7/12/2012

In the 80s I argued we had to support excellent research and offered solar energy as an example.

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Rhosty,

Sorry petal, that really was horrible to witness. I had no idea you were in therapy. I’m sure you will get back to us with some facts when whatever you are “on” kicks in? Always remember, if reality is that painful, don’t go there.
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 9 December 2012 11:11:07 AM
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Rhrosty the only people serious about climate change are.

1/ The greenie ratbags, who want to kill western civilisation.

2/ Governments who need a new source of tax, so use bought & paid for academics to promote a scare.

3/ The poor public, who don't have the time to put in to understand how they are being conned.

Mate you are talking Micky Mouse stuff. You need real water, Sydney harbours full a week, up in the mountains, not on the coast to bother with. I suppose we could use coal fired power to pump the water up there, so we could make hydro with it. Greenies would probably go for that, they are dumb enough not to understand, if we don't tell them about the dams. Call it something like "cyclic Hydro" & use those same bought & paid for academics to promote it.

Ultimately, if you want Micky Mouse stuff, how about the "sealed unit" nuclear power systems used by the US navy. They come in a number of sizes, have an enviable safety record, could be built in a factory & shipped to where needed, & are too small to be a worth while target. Now that's Micky Mouse on a grand scale.

2 big & a medium for Cairns, 2 small for Goondiwindi. Replace one with a medium if the place grows.

The worst thing about Nuclear, is we would probably have to burn coal, just to keep the CO2 level high enough to fertilise the food required, if we don't start listening to Ludwig.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 9 December 2012 11:18:45 AM
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Hi spindoc.
Thanks for the input, wasn't talking about conventional hydro, but rather something based on the alternative German model, which utilises something as small as a three metre fall, much the way old mill wheels did?
Yes you are right, hydro schemes need surety of water, that is why storing trillions of tons of the stuff in the landscape, is such a good idea, on so many fronts!
However, I prefer the almost absolute surety of nuclear power, be it the new generation of super safe waterless pebble reactors, which can be factory Mass produced and trucked on site, and producing cheaper than coal power, in just days!
But only as publicly owned and supplied facilities that have no shareholders or foreign debt burdens to support!
And earn enough, to return any outlays, over say a decade, with any further net returns, used to enlarge the system.
Right now and based on large unmet capacity/demand, we have a unique opportunity, to develop and sell enough thirty year self terminating bonds, to pay for this form of nation building; and say, a roll on roll off nuclear powered national fleet?
And even an inland canal, that massively shortens turnaround time, with regard to Asian markets!
Other than that mate, I prefer thorium!
We have huge reserves of that, mixed with very valuable recoverable rare earths.
We should be building a national nuclear powered, bulk freight forwarding fleet.
Bulk freight forwarding is still almost the most profitable/can't lose business on the planet?
And will be even more so, as fossil fuel supplies decline or become more and more expensive!
Utilising nuclear power, and our huge reserves of thorium or uranium, we will become increasingly independent, earn huge foreign capital; and indeed, even effectively compete with emerging giant economies!
But only if we produce endless cheap power, rebuild our national maritime shipping fleet; and back that, with quite massive reform and simplification of our tax system! to empower entrepreneurial development; and cooperative capitalism!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 9 December 2012 11:51:14 AM
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Rhosty,

Ah! Yes, yes of course, the new alternative three foot high German hydro, Mmmm…….?

Gotta dash, let me have the figures for this when….you know…you have them, yes?
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:12:18 PM
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And hasbeen, you are right, we will still need to produce Co2, just to fertilize the plants, the trees and those dense dazed cloud dwellers, who frequently hug/merge with them. [Now where did I leave those splinters forceps?]
Given we all exhale Co2, how about 9 billion heavy breathers?
Seriously, many crops can and should be grown under class/polycarbonate.
After the bees have completely finished pollination, a glass/shade house can be routinely flushed with virtually costless Co2, to eliminate predation/pests, all while promoting maximised poison free production!
Cheers, Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:20:08 PM
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Is solar power the answer?

What is the question?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 9 December 2012 2:44:12 PM
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